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Clyde the Homer..........
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Nalod
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2/13/2007  7:32 PM
This phucher must be lurking here for ideas to write on........

I bought this up last week about player clyde being a god in my eyes, and the announcer clyde being a dolan homer.

But he is still clyde, so he can always get a pass. But I can still stay it.

so has this dude.....
New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com
Clyde's fine whine suits Dolan's taste

Tuesday, February 13th, 2007

After the Knicks gagged on a 10-point lead in the final five minutes of regulation, and eventually lost in OT to Utah on Saturday night, an irate Isiah Thomas did not have to say a single word about referees Leon Wood and Phil Robinson.

Walt (Clyde) Frazier already had done the whining for him.

This was no surprise to anyone still bothering to watch the Knicks on Madison Square Gulag Network. It's reached the point where every Knicks voice must receive a postgame towel to dry off after spending an evening going in the tank for Thomas and his boss James (Guitar Jimmy) Dolan.

Watching Frazier flail away in the deep end has become particularly sad. Especially - like Saturday - when he bellyaches about the officiating. When Clyde played the game, when he displayed greatness fans still recall with fondness and respect, he would never think of complaining to an official.

Silence and a poker face were his calling cards. Clyde was cool. Retribution was sought on the court. In Frazier's old world, the blame game was a sucker's play.

Now, Frazier mirrors the men he works for. Dolan and Thomas must break out in hives when someone mentions the word accountability. It's always the other guy's fault. So when the Knicks fold down the stretch, blame the referees.

You could see where all this was headed with 2:43 left in the fourth quarter, with the Knicks up 89-87. That's when Stephon Marbury coughed up the ball, leading to a three-pointer by Mehmet Okur to put the Jazz up by one. The play stands out, in terms of MSG's slant, because it was not clear exactly how Marbury lost the ball. Mike Crispino, handling the play-by-play, said Derek Fisher "stripped" Marbury. But it sure looked like Marbury dribbled the ball off his own foot.

When Marbury messes up, there's a good chance MSG will "forget" to replay it. That's what happened on this occasion. And yet, with 12.7 seconds left, and the score tied at 93, MSG had plenty of time to replay Marbury's Dec.18 OT drive for a game-winning layup over the Jazz.

The implication was more than clear. Maybe the Knicks were going to celebrate another last-second win. Instead, Jamal Crawford missed at the buzzer. Nonetheless, if points came in the form of excuses, MSG's voices would have propelled the Knicks to victory.

As soon as Crawford launched the shot, Crispino said: "He's hit. No call." Then came a closeup of Crawford firing his headband at the Knicks' bench.

That's when Frazier, in full screech mode, started whining. "He (Crawford) was fouled. He was fouled, folks. ... His body was hit by Fisher as he was going up to shoot. ... Fisher ran under his legs."

MSG presented two worthless replays. The angles showed nothing. The third one proved that Frazier - and Crispino for that matter - were over the top in their description of this alleged "contact" Fisher had with Crawford. At best, according to MSG's own replay, it was incidental.

This was another excuse to treat viewers like morons. Anyone watching realized that, more often than not, NBA officials have been known to swallow their whistles in similar situations. Frazier did not quickly make that point.

The Shill Show continued in the OT session. With 1:51 left, David Lee dunked, slicing Utah's lead to 99-97. Lee, a chronic complainer (that too has been ignored by MSG's voices), claimed he was hit on the wrist. He wound up getting hit with a technical, which opened the door for Utah to go up by five.

Frazier and Crispino were so wrapped up in playing defense attorney for Lee that they failed, even in the slightest way, to admonish him for losing control in a critical situation. That's no revelation. It's just common sense.

And yet, under the Dolan regime, neither Frazier nor Crispino is being paid to display that. Objectivity has no place on Dolan's Gulag network. If the Jazz met with a similar "fate," would either voice have been equally vociferous in condemnation of the officials?

At one point in OT, Crispino was quick to accuse the referees of not giving the Knicks "the benefit of the doubt." Predictably, carping took precedence over making an issue of the Knicks squandering that 10-point lead in the fourth.

Pointing that out, instead of blaming the loss on the referees, would not have pleased Dolan or Thomas.

For Frazier and Crispino, that is all that matters.
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2/14/2007  10:32 AM
Don't care. Love the Clyde.
arkrud
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2/14/2007  10:56 AM
He is not only announcer but the REAL Knicks fan.
How he can be cool?
The afficiating in this gama was hareble.
This is not an exuse for losing as it was hareble both ways.
Bottom line good teams are winning regardless the officiating and have no reason to complain.
Bag teams... well... you know...
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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2/14/2007  11:30 AM
Posted by arkrud:

He is not only announcer but the REAL Knicks fan.
How he can be cool?
The afficiating in this gama was hareble.
This is not an exuse for losing as it was hareble both ways.
Bottom line good teams are winning regardless the officiating and have no reason to complain.
Bag teams... well... you know...

I use to think the same thing about msg and there bias staff, but since I move to MD and I have NBA league pass, frazier isn't the only thats bias. Its pretty much like that through out the league. I really started to take notice after marv was dismiss
and most commentators are he same.

If anybody saw the BULLs and Rapors game last night, you would have sworn two bulls Fans pick up the mic and decided to do the game. On top of that the bulls were straight out rob of at least a 1.7 seconds. they coninue to let the clock run after a foul was call with 3.7 seconds left and the bulls up 1, the whistle blew the clock stop, then with absolutely no one paying attention other then the two behind the mic the clock guy runs another 2 seconds off. Bosh makes both fts and the bulls only had 1.7 seconds to get off a shot . Ben did get a semi good look, but had he had an extra second the results would have been different. And o boy those 2 guys bitch and moan llke a nagging wife. So in all reality it is what is, there paid very well to be bias.
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2/14/2007  11:34 AM
I agree - Clyde is neutral compared to the hacks that do most regional broadcasts. We're lucky to have Clyde.
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2/14/2007  2:50 PM
Never understood the critique of play-by-play or color commentators. What are they suppose to do? Be critical of the team you are covering each time you get a chance? These guys cater to their customers which are Knick fans. If you are doing TNT or ESPN then be neutral all you want but a HOME announcer has the right to be a homer.
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2/14/2007  2:57 PM
Posted by knicks1248:
Posted by arkrud:

He is not only announcer but the REAL Knicks fan.
How he can be cool?
The afficiating in this gama was hareble.
This is not an exuse for losing as it was hareble both ways.
Bottom line good teams are winning regardless the officiating and have no reason to complain.
Bag teams... well... you know...

I use to think the same thing about msg and there bias staff, but since I move to MD and I have NBA league pass, frazier isn't the only thats bias. Its pretty much like that through out the league. I really started to take notice after marv was dismiss
and most commentators are he same.

If anybody saw the BULLs and Rapors game last night, you would have sworn two bulls Fans pick up the mic and decided to do the game. On top of that the bulls were straight out rob of at least a 1.7 seconds. they coninue to let the clock run after a foul was call with 3.7 seconds left and the bulls up 1, the whistle blew the clock stop, then with absolutely no one paying attention other then the two behind the mic the clock guy runs another 2 seconds off. Bosh makes both fts and the bulls only had 1.7 seconds to get off a shot . Ben did get a semi good look, but had he had an extra second the results would have been different. And o boy those 2 guys bitch and moan llke a nagging wife. So in all reality it is what is, there paid very well to be bias.

I noticed the same thing. 99.9 % of all comentators are biased. I recently moved to ATL from NY so I catch all the games on the league pass. Its amazing how all these color commentators bellyache over every call/non-call. But none are worse than Tommy 'gun' Heinson for the Celts.
"Man, who knows with this team." Aguirre.
Clyde the Homer..........

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