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GoNyGoNyGo
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2/8/2007  7:37 PM
It is quite a hatchet job. Says he is not working hard enough. IF true, this kid will not be a Knick for too much longer. I hope someone gets through to him, because he could help this team.
It's Eddy Curry's pregame ritual. About an hour before tip-off, he works on post moves with assistant coaches Herb Williams and Mark Aguirre. They pound him, push him and double-team him, and Curry goes through his ever-developing repertoire of moves. His practice jersey is soaked with sweat, and after practicing free throws, he heads back to the locker room.

Stephon Marbury comes out then and does his routine of jump shots around the perimeter. Whatever is going on around him is blocked out. Just catch and shoot, catch and shoot.

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These are examples of focus and preparation from two of the Knicks' leaders who are taking their playoff push seriously. Then there's the sight of Nate Robinson throwing up wild fade-away jumpers and goading Channing Frye into a one-on-one battle, in which the 6-11 Frye ill-advisedly chucks off-balance fadeaways against the 5-9 Robinson. That's an example of the lack of discipline that could keep the Knicks from getting to the postseason.

Robinson doesn't need to look any further than that when he wonders why Isiah Thomas didn't play him for more than the final 42 seconds of Tuesday's win over the Clippers.

"The game doesn't start when you get into the game," Marbury said. "The game starts right before the shootaround in the morning."

Marbury and Curry agree that every player has his own way of preparing for games but that certain key teammates could show more discipline. Curry said their mental approach probably will change "once we realize we can't afford to lose any more games." But by then it could be too late. The Knicks (22-28) need all hands on deck if they're going to make the playoff run they believe they have in them.

Everyone within the organization thinks Robinson, with his tremendous athletic ability, should be a key player and not a benchwarmer who has the Garden crowd chanting just so it can enjoy his antics. Robinson shouldn't be a novelty act; he should be a defensive demon on the perimeter. His good three-point stroke should make him dangerous, and his leaping ability should get him rebounds to spark fast breaks.

Instead, Thomas can't find a place for him in the rotation because, unlike fellow second-year players Frye and David Lee, Robinson's approach hasn't developed past the dazzling streetballer stage.

When asked a few weeks ago if he was worried about his diminished role, Robinson said, "Not at all. I play hard in practice, I'm having fun with my teammates. Whenever my number's called, I'm going to be out there doing what I've been doing."

With the Feb. 22 trade deadline drawing near and the Knicks looking as if they could use one more asset to contend in the wide-open East, would Thomas consider sending Robinson home to Seattle in a package for, say, forward Rashard Lewis?

Robinson's teammates agree he is blessed with physical ability that is more God-given than man-made. Yet he fills himself with junk food before games and puts little effort into preparation during warmups. And as he showed during the Dec. 16 brawl with the Nuggets, he can implode on the court at any time.

When Steve Francis finally returns, there will be even less time for Robinson in a crowded backcourt. So this should be a time for Robinson to show Thomas what he can do with critical playing time.

"Nate is going to be Nate," a Knicks veteran said. "There's going to be highs and lows with him. Eventually, a switch is going to click on with him. He doesn't understand how serious the NBA is ... He's not putting himself in a situation where he can be a valuable asset for a team. And when he becomes that, he can make a lot of money."

He also could help the Knicks become a legitimate playoff contender.
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2/8/2007  7:54 PM
pretty damning, also pretty obvious from watching the team this year. last year, I thought Nate had unlimited promise to be a sort mini-AI at the SG. now, I'd be more than happy to ship him out. he needs more focus.

also, the article is a little damning to Frye, too, huh? I guess Frye took it to heart when RJ said "just collect your paychecks and get out of there."
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2/8/2007  8:19 PM
Im not to surprise at this article, nate is obviously not going to get it during his rookie contract. And I wouldn't be surprise if he's traded.

The kid takes nothing in the nba serious. His pathetic showing in the slam dunk contest last year was evident. 50 tries for one dunk, it was so bad, they had to change the rules ( call it the nate rule). Fry would be just as bad, only his up bringing, and four year college experience as at least kept him humble.

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2/8/2007  9:10 PM
If there is a problem, Isiah will eventually get through to him...if Nate remains a Knick.
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2/8/2007  9:40 PM
Nate's a clown and a stupid one at that.

What do you think is more important to Nate: The Knicks making the playoffs or him winning another slam dunk contest?

I bet he's put in more work on his dunking than he has on his game.
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2/8/2007  10:20 PM
Listen, the kid is definitely immature. No question about that. But like the article says, eventually something is going to click with Nate and he will realize the NBA is a serious thing. The guy has amazing potential. If he is capable of bringing in a decent player then it has to be evaluated how much of an impact this new player would have to make it worth giving up on Nate. Immaturity doesn't bother me as much because ppl grow out of that and Nate will definitely grow out of it to some extent eventually and really make his mark in the NBA. I would still give the kid some time. At least until next years trade deadline. Unless we are talking about bringing in a guy like Rashard Lewis.
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2/8/2007  10:21 PM
Posted by islesfan:

Nate's a clown and a stupid one at that.

What do you think is more important to Nate: The Knicks making the playoffs or him winning another slam dunk contest?

I bet he's put in more work on his dunking than he has on his game.

sadly, I agree.
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2/8/2007  10:26 PM
Isiah is becoming Larry and seeing what a moron some of his guys really are.

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2/9/2007  2:08 AM
Nate will be fine. He's young, he's immature, a victim of sudden celebrity and many more things that any of us probably wouldn't handle too well. If his pre-game preparation is bad, that's on the coaching staff. I feel that he can be a good player,
I'd rather him be a Knick when that time comes but if he isn't, that's life. As far as the Slam Dunk thing, if you allow anyone too many chances at something, that's on you (the league) not the competitor.
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2/9/2007  6:51 AM
Until a few knicks can make it to the all star game, then i'll say it's time for nate to give up the slam dunk
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2/9/2007  7:44 AM
Nate is an awesome talent. He has the chance to be a more athletic version of Earl Boykins, with even better playmaking and defensive ability. He just needs to focus on his game and gain some humility. His problem is that he is just too confident and thinks he knows it all. He will grow out of it; hopefully, in enough time to make the most out of his talent.
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2/9/2007  9:42 AM
Posted by islesfan:

Nate's a clown and a stupid one at that.

What do you think is more important to Nate: The Knicks making the playoffs or him winning another slam dunk contest?

I bet he's put in more work on his dunking than he has on his game.


you're probably right... i think Nate's got a severe case of ADD... the guy just tunes out during huddles sometimes... the other night i saw Isiah have to grab Nate's attention away from the video display at the arena so he could get him to see the play he was drawing up... the guy's just a tightly wound, hyper-active kid w/tremendous athletic ability & zero sense... it's going to take ALOT of good coaching & patience for him to finally get it.
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2/9/2007  12:18 PM
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2/9/2007  2:42 PM
Posted by Travla:

Nate will be fine. He's young, he's immature, a victim of sudden celebrity and many more things that any of us probably wouldn't handle too well. If his pre-game preparation is bad, that's on the coaching staff. I feel that he can be a good player,
I'd rather him be a Knick when that time comes but if he isn't, that's life. As far as the Slam Dunk thing, if you allow anyone too many chances at something, that's on you (the league) not the competitor.

Disagree. If his pre-game preparation is bad, that's poor work ethic, don't blame the coach my friend. Coaches can't teach work ethic, I think we'd all agree on that.
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2/9/2007  6:16 PM
I think Nate will get it eventually. Even so his trade value is zero now. Our best move is to wait it out and see if he improves. No need to sell low.
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2/10/2007  5:50 AM
This is how I imagine Nate on the team plane....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7906247050922656343&q=cornholio%2C+beavis

Martin, Andrew any change we can hook a video code up so we can post google video, too?
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