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djsunyc
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2/4/2007  1:34 PM
NO MAGIC CHARM

By PETER VECSEY

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February 4, 2007 -- AS IF the NBA (and its high profile alumni: Latrell Sprewell, Alvin Robertson and J.R. Rider) doesn't exhibit enough black eyes.

As if the league doesn't have enough cynicism and distrust swirling around it!

Well, thanks to the mortally misguided Magic Johnson, it is now troubled by another "eddy."

Just when I thought TNT couldn't appeal to a lower common denominator, Magic's light went out in Georgia.

This past Thursday evening, following the nitwit network's amply paid-for privilege to reveal the league's 14 non-starting All-Stars - none named Eddy Curry - Magic deduced vindictiveness played the leading role in the Knicks center's exclusion.

"That's [the East's 14 head coaches] saying to [Isiah] Thomas, 'That's my boy [Larry Brown] you fired,' " Johnson rationalized.

How much thought, if any, do you suppose went into forming such a slanderous accusation? In Johnson's wisdom-of-the-White-House judgment, the reason Curry ain't goin' to Las Vegas is because of a "vendetta" against Thomas.

In other words, Curry's omission has next to nothing to do with the shoddy 20-28 record the Knicks took into last night, or that Dwight Howard (Orlando) and Jermaine O'Neal (Indiana) have impacted their teams' standing in the standings more positively.

There are 30 teams and 14 spots after the fans' popularity contest is finished. Some standard must be used by coaches to set players apart: more wins than losses.

That's why Ray Allen, Baron Davis, Zach Randolph, Joe Johnson, Michael Redd and other stats leaders for below-mediocre outfits had little chance of gaining enough votes.

That's also why Josh Howard, Mehmet Okur, Carmelo Anthony, Elton Brand, Deron Williams and Marcus Camby are the leading candidates (in that order, I submit) to replace disabled Yao Ming and Carlos Boozer; it's the commissioner's call.

I know how difficult it must be for Stephon Marbury and Don Nelson to grasp that concept, but I expected more out of Magic.

It'll never happen again!

Had Johnson sought to present an authentic argument for a stiffed player, he should've selected Chicago's Ben Gordon. How fair is it that the 22-25 Nets have two All-Stars (Vince Carter and Jason Kidd), yet the 27-20 Bulls are shut out?

Instead, Johnson took a scurrilous route. Just what the league needs is another one of its play-actor ambassadors subverting the integrity of the coaching profession!

Imagine the chorus of censure from David Stern and the coaches had someone else (other than Charles Barkley, of course) said something so scandalous. Imagine someone in Johnson's position, someone who certainly should know better, and someone who's supposed to have some genuine insight into what goes on behind the screens, indicting a whole group of coaches for allegedly contaminating its vote!

It's downright depressing to think Johnson has so little respect for people in the profession and that he'd be allowed to go on the air with such an outlandishly asinine theory. Not to faintly suggest any preparation whatsoever or homework of any kind is involved in what spews from anyone's mouth on the set other than Ernie Johnson's.

It's exceptionally sad Johnson subscribes to the warped notion that coaches are so petty and so revengeful that they would stoop to such depths, that they'd compromise their reputations and taint their professionalism so easily and willingly.

In Johnson's muddled mind, this was about Larry's legions (assuming Brown actually has more than two or three supporters) getting even with Thomas by punishing a player under his jurisdiction.

How scary is that! Coaches would be foolish to dignify such damage with a response, yet how can they not counter the senseless attack on their credibility?

What's scarier, still, is that ostensibly intelligent NBA observers have enthusiastically embraced Johnson's sordid speculation and cannot be reasoned with. That only goes to re-confirm, you can't argue with ignorance.

For the record, neither Barkley nor Kenny Smith saw fit to challenge Johnson's stupid statement. Shocking!

My personal advisory board - Abscess Ahmad, Jim Gray and Stephen A(nal) Smith - have reserved comment.

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It's here again, boys and girls, the annual biggest game in the history of the civilized and uncivilized world. So grand is this get-together that any other meet-and-greet would be foolish to finagle any portion of the public's patience: Hawks at Nets, tip-off, High Noon.

I understand even this football game isn't starting until early evening so as not to get washed away with the Continental Breakfast Arena dishes. By the way, how nice was it for the association to give Tayshaun Prince permission to take the day off and be the halftime entertainment at this football game. NBA Cares.

Far be from me to be accused of inciting a riot, but after perusing the rostrum of West reserves, I've decided Allen Iverson has 'Melo's rightful place at the podium. There, I've said it. Enjoy the rest of the season, gents.

Exxon Mobil, barely making ends meet, announced '06 profits of $39.5 billion. To assuage the gas-gouged public, the company said that once its makes $40 billion, it shall consider washing windshields.
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2/4/2007  2:42 PM

Magic was wrong...But, it's must be killing Vescey how he no longer has any street cred and is no longer considered an insider...He is taking shots at anyone who appears as an analysis in any spot he once occupied...Years ago, he was all over SAS... SAS declined to comment about his articles about him...I though TNT does a good job at giving hoops a grand stage when most other stations balked at the idea in prime time...
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2/4/2007  3:21 PM
I was surprised at how supportive of Eddy Magic and Charles were. I was surprised by Magic's take on Brown's influence, and dissapointed it came so late in the discussion that there was no time for anyone to call him on it. Vescey's hatred of Magic, Charles and Kenny's presence on that program is something I haven't understood in the past and still don't. It's hard not to think it's just "sour grapes." It's also interesting to see how many paragraphs it takes for some people to say, "harrumph!"
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2/4/2007  6:10 PM
vescey is an idiot, magic is taking up for his boy, just like jackass george karl and popovic did for their thieving friend, larry brown.. Listen, vescey is the same asswipe that got into a fight with a guy in the store which he overheard talking bad about him....LOL!!!
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2/4/2007  6:56 PM
Lame. Does anybody take the All-Star selection process seriously?
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2/4/2007  11:16 PM
Magic wants Isiahs job.
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2/4/2007  11:18 PM
Posted by tkf:

vescey is an idiot, magic is taking up for his boy, just like jackass george karl and popovic did for their thieving friend, larry brown.. Listen, vescey is the same asswipe that got into a fight with a guy in the store which he overheard talking bad about him....LOL!!!

magic is sticking up for his boy, but at the same time, he's totally discrediting the objectivity of all nba coaches that vote for all star reserves.
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2/4/2007  11:36 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

vescey is an idiot, magic is taking up for his boy, just like jackass george karl and popovic did for their thieving friend, larry brown.. Listen, vescey is the same asswipe that got into a fight with a guy in the store which he overheard talking bad about him....LOL!!!

magic is sticking up for his boy, but at the same time, he's totally discrediting the objectivity of all nba coaches that vote for all star reserves.

There is more to it than just who is the best player. Like Carmello getting left off for being a punk.

I don't know that Curry was left off because of Isiah but it isn't impossible, look how many guys we got here rooting against their own team because of Isiah! He inspires very strong reactions in people.

oohah

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2/4/2007  11:38 PM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

vescey is an idiot, magic is taking up for his boy, just like jackass george karl and popovic did for their thieving friend, larry brown.. Listen, vescey is the same asswipe that got into a fight with a guy in the store which he overheard talking bad about him....LOL!!!

magic is sticking up for his boy, but at the same time, he's totally discrediting the objectivity of all nba coaches that vote for all star reserves.

There is more to it than just who is the best player. Like Carmello getting left off for being a punk.

I don't know that Curry was left off because of Isiah but it isn't impossible, look how many guys we got here rooting against their own team because of Isiah! He inspires very strong reactions in people.

oohah

there were 3 candidates for the backup spot - dwight, ok4, and eddy.

orlando has won more games with dwight playing at a high level. why is it so crazy that eddy didn't make it? magic thinks it's some big conspiracy when it can be broken down that simple.
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2/4/2007  11:40 PM
there were 3 candidates for the backup spot - dwight, ok4, and eddy.

orlando has won more games with dwight playing at a high level. why is it so crazy that eddy didn't make it? magic thinks it's some big conspiracy when it can be broken down that simple.

I don't think it is crazy at all. In fact, I would pick Howard in front of Curry for sure. I'm just saying that the notion that certain coaches might be swayed to cast their vote against Isiah's player because they do not like Isiah is not impossible.

It's quite possible isn't it?

oohah



[Edited by - oohah on 04-02-2007 11:41 PM]
Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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2/5/2007  1:31 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by tkf:

vescey is an idiot, magic is taking up for his boy, just like jackass george karl and popovic did for their thieving friend, larry brown.. Listen, vescey is the same asswipe that got into a fight with a guy in the store which he overheard talking bad about him....LOL!!!

magic is sticking up for his boy, but at the same time, he's totally discrediting the objectivity of all nba coaches that vote for all star reserves.

There is more to it than just who is the best player. Like Carmello getting left off for being a punk.

I don't know that Curry was left off because of Isiah but it isn't impossible, look how many guys we got here rooting against their own team because of Isiah! He inspires very strong reactions in people.

oohah

there were 3 candidates for the backup spot - dwight, ok4, and eddy.

orlando has won more games with dwight playing at a high level. why is it so crazy that eddy didn't make it? magic thinks it's some big conspiracy when it can be broken down that simple.


So the orlando magic having two more wins or so than the knicks validate taking Howard over curry? If that is the case then why is okafor's name even mentioned in this conversation? look at his team...
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2/5/2007  2:08 AM
I'm just reading this now. Vescey is disgusting. He's the wanna be hoodlum journalist. Its a shame he still has a job. Nothing he says means anything anymore.

Magic might seriously like Curry. Someone jokingly mentioned that magic might want isiahs job. That could be true too.

What's true is that the all-star game is not what it used to be. The NBA game is not what it used to be. Lord knows the knicks aren't what they used to be. I miss the good old days, lol.
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2/5/2007  9:10 AM
I think Magic will always defend his man love:
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2/5/2007  9:24 AM
Its a fair article and to say that eddy curry deserves to be an all-star is criminal, there are about five other players in the east more deserving, and Okafur at 15.9pts 11.5 2.9blks a games deserved over curry....

it was an ignorant statement
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2/5/2007  10:46 AM
Posted by MS:

Its a fair article and to say that eddy curry deserves to be an all-star is criminal, there are about five other players in the east more deserving, and Okafur at 15.9pts 11.5 2.9blks a games deserved over curry....

it was an ignorant statement


why okafor? his team sucks, he doesn't score, I mean come on, no one wants to watch the allstar game for guys trying to block every shot, they want to see scoring, dunks, and highlight reel moves... Okafor has good numbers but to say he is more deserving than curry? why?
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2/5/2007  10:52 AM
Posted by tkf:
Posted by MS:

Its a fair article and to say that eddy curry deserves to be an all-star is criminal, there are about five other players in the east more deserving, and Okafur at 15.9pts 11.5 2.9blks a games deserved over curry....

it was an ignorant statement


why okafor? his team sucks, he doesn't score, I mean come on, no one wants to watch the allstar game for guys trying to block every shot, they want to see scoring, dunks, and highlight reel moves... Okafor has good numbers but to say he is more deserving than curry? why?

Because he's a more complete and better player than Curry who averages only 3-4 points less but does so much more on a basketball court. Same goes for Okafor.
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2/5/2007  11:24 AM
Well for one he is not the focal point of the offense. The bobcats have beat us 2/3 times we have played them and the one we won was miracle.

He embaraced the knicks in the garden blocking 10 shots and changing the course of many others. If you ask ever gm in the league who they would have i think you would be hard dressed to find anyone who would want curry over okafur, there is a reason we needed to insert james into the starting lineup......

Center is the most important defensive position, and fact of the matter is as good as Eddy has played I think if you put ZO in the paint on this team we would have won just as many games.

Perhaps if Eddy was a dillegent worker and really wanted to be the player he should be i might take him, very rarely do you see him angry like he was in Orlando thats the whole problem with his game.....And for him to defend his rebounding numbers by saying that the team has a lot of good rebounders only enforces whats wrong, he needs to play angry every night with a chip on his shoulder and dominate the league....Scoring pts isn't enough
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