Posted by King1:
Wow the Yankee fans are drinking the kool-AID. If Mattingly gets in Ted Simmons, Scott Rolen, and Jim Edmonds are no brainers. Ted Simmons has more hits, homers, and rbis and played catcher. Edmonds will end up with 200 more home runs and 300 more rbis than DM. Rolen will have 200 have 400 hr and 1300 rbi to end his career. Defensively Edmonds and Rolen were as good at their respective position as DM was. Mattingly was a good player but not a HOF
Are Edmunds and Rolen HOFers?
The arguement for DM isnt about his career. Its about those 4 years we are talking about. For 4 years Don Mattingly was one of the best players in baseball... certainly a top 5 every year. Then he got hurt. Can you say the same about the guys you mentioned?
DM was 5,1,2 and 7 in MVP votes those years. 6 time all star. Do those guys have 9 gold gloves? During those 4 years he was 1,3,2 and 5 in batting. He was 2,2,1 and 7 in slugging. He was 1,2,1 and 7 in hits. He was 1,1,1,3,6, and 3 in doubles from 84-92. He was 5,1,3,5,2 in RBIs from 84-89. He was 4,1,1,4,5 in extra base hits. He was 3,4,3,5,2,4 in intetional walks.
The debate is as simple as is 4 years before an injury good enough? I dont have a problem with people saying its not good enough. I'm actually on the fence. I understand the arguments against him being there. I can see the justification for him going. He was the great baseball player before he got hurt. When you measure him against players of his area statistically he was as good as anyone he was playing against on both sides of the ball.
There's no koolaid. Where Scott Rolan and Jim Edmunds ever the best players in baseball? Where they for a 4-5 year stretch? You see them more than I do, I'm just asking you honestly. Edmunds probably has a better shot, but again was he ever the best or top 5 for any stretch? And does that even merit being inducted? I'm not sure it does, but its a good debate
[Edited by - fishmike on 01-28-2007 8:47 PM]
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