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Solace
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1/27/2007  10:54 AM
Holy cow. I didn't catch the game. I think maybe this is what TMS was talking about when he talked about Crawford's hot streaks.

Of course, I still maintain the problem is when Crawford's in a slump, he just chucks up shots anyway. Regardless, wow, what a game by Crawford.
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1/27/2007  11:03 AM
Jamal's a good player when he starts.
Look at the season splits here:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamal_crawford/season_splits.html
Starter (23 games):
21 PPG, 42% FG, 5.4 APG, 3.7 RPG, 1.3 Stls, 42.2 mpg
Reserve (22 games):
13.3 PPG, 37% FG, 3.7 APG, 2.7 RPG, 0.8 Stls, 31.1 mpg

The biggest difference is in scoring and FG% obviously. I think a mentally tough player should be able to handle coming off the bench. That said, a good coach has to put his players in a position to succeed. Jamal can't do it off the bench but can as a starter.
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1/27/2007  11:07 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Jamal's a good player when he starts.
Look at the season splits here:
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/jamal_crawford/season_splits.html
Starter (23 games):
21 PPG, 42% FG, 5.4 APG, 3.7 RPG, 1.3 Stls, 42.2 mpg
Reserve (22 games):
13.3 PPG, 37% FG, 3.7 APG, 2.7 RPG, 0.8 Stls, 31.1 mpg

The biggest difference is in scoring and FG% obviously. I think a mentally tough player should be able to handle coming off the bench. That said, a good coach has to put his players in a position to succeed. Jamal can't do it off the bench but can as a starter.

It's an interesting point. All I know is his stats and his decision making during stretches this year have been plain awful. Maybe you're right, maybe he does need to start. I certainly am not against him starting, because, first, we really have no better options. I think almost everyone on the board would agree that our best lineup is Curry, Lee, Q, Craw and Marbury. Secondly, I like the idea of him starting, because if he could start and put up 21 PPG like he has as a starter, then his trade value skyrockets, which is great for the team. If we can get Crawford's trade value that high, I think we could possibly get a nice piece for him.
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1/27/2007  11:10 AM
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1/27/2007  11:30 AM
This is an aberration. Like a perfect storm.

Curry was out so there was no main option.

Crawford was hitting everything he threw up.

Streak shooters have games like this. It happens. But I don't think any thinks that this is Crawford turning a corner or anything.
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1/27/2007  11:40 AM
Curry is too fat.
DLee is the best thing to happen to NY in Isiah's 4 year tenure. And that alone, though a positive on the radar, is sad as hell.
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1/27/2007  11:53 AM
Posted by islesfan:

This is an aberration. Like a perfect storm.

Curry was out so there was no main option.

Crawford was hitting everything he threw up.

Streak shooters have games like this. It happens. But I don't think any thinks that this is Crawford turning a corner or anything.

do you sleep on a rock? Why can't you just enjoy a great performance?
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1/27/2007  11:54 AM
Nope........... a dumpster.
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1/27/2007  12:00 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by islesfan:

This is an aberration. Like a perfect storm.

Curry was out so there was no main option.

Crawford was hitting everything he threw up.

Streak shooters have games like this. It happens. But I don't think any thinks that this is Crawford turning a corner or anything.

do you sleep on a rock? Why can't you just enjoy a great performance?


Seriously.......... I might agree with you but damn I would rather talk about how great it was then down him for it
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1/27/2007  12:02 PM
Yeah, for as many bad games as Crawford has had, in this case, it's just unfair to focus on the negative. He apparently had the game of his life, let's give a little credit.

Btw, anyone know if this game is going to be replayed? I'd like to see it.
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1/27/2007  12:26 PM
Thanks for posting the video Matt. I had to miss the second half The Knicks never cease to amaze me. What a great night that would have been to be at the Garden. I say let the kid start.
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1/27/2007  12:41 PM
Posted by islesfan:

This is an aberration. Like a perfect storm.

Curry was out so there was no main option.

Crawford was hitting everything he threw up.

Streak shooters have games like this. It happens. But I don't think any thinks that this is Crawford turning a corner or anything.

It doesn't mean he turned a corner at all - but it was an insane performance. The Heat were doubling him on the perimeter and he was still shaking guys off and getting to the rim or taking good shots.

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1/27/2007  12:53 PM
Posted by islesfan:

This is an aberration. Like a perfect storm.

Curry was out so there was no main option.

Crawford was hitting everything he threw up.

Streak shooters have games like this. It happens. But I don't think any thinks that this is Crawford turning a corner or anything.

Wow, by hearing you talk, a person would think that your team lost!

Listen, if your not a Knick fan than just let us, who are, enjoy our victory, ok?

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1/27/2007  12:58 PM
Jamal is my favorite player on the team. While I see many of his shortcomings, last night was very special. There was NO greenlight to just throw the ball up. The plays were not in transition for the most part but in the half court off of screens and pick and rolls. Also, its not easy to hit 16 consecutive shots on every part of the court, go 8/8 from 3 consecutively and finish 80% behind the arc. Crawford had a historical night, meaning that:


According to the Elias Sports Bureau, no NBA player had made 16 straight shots in a single game since it began recording the statistic 10 years ago.

The 16 straight buckets, spanning late-first-quarter to 2:17 left in the third, was a Knicks' single-game record and possibly an NBA single-game record, though it can't be confirmed because the stat has been kept only since 1995.

No player had hit 16 straight shots since 1994 in a single NBA game. Shaquille O'Neal, whose two rim-rattling, backboard-bending dunks were completely overshadowed last night, once made 16 straight buckets across two games.

This was a raging inferno, with Crawford draining treys, mid-range pull-ups and crazy runners in the lane. The last Knick to hit for 50 was Houston in 2003, vs. Milwaukee at the Garden.

There was the first-ever "Let's go Crawford!" chant early in the fourth.

It also really galvanized the team...I have never seen the team have a LOVE-FEST after the performance













WHAT THEY ARE SAYING:

"The way how Jamal played tonight was incredible," Knicks guard Stephon Marbury said. "That was the best performance I've ever seen inside the Garden other than Michael Jordan."

According to Crawford, who was put in the starting lineup instead of Jared Jeffries, it was Stephon Marbury who first noticed that he was approaching the shooting zone. "He told me in the second quarter, 'You're hot,' Crawford said. "And he got me the ball."

Even the great Dwyane Wade was moved to say, "Unbelievable. I've never seen thing like that before. You've go to give him an ovation for what he did."

"Hell of a game tonight," Shaquille O'Neal said. "He hit a lot of amazing shots."

"Amazing," Eddy Curry said. "Jamal is my guy. I'm so happy for him I wanted to cry."

Allan Houston and Patrick Ewing, whose career high was 51 points, were in attendance last night.
"All you want is the ball in your hands," Houston said. "You want the ball in your hands and you know you're going to shoot because you know you're not going to miss," said Houston, who scored 50 points both on the road and at home for the Knicks. "The thought of missing never enters your mind. It doesn't matter where you are when you get in that kind of rhythm, but it's more fun to do it at the Garden."

"He had the heat on!" Patrick Ewing boomed in the din of a giddy locker room after a 116-96 win before a sellout crowd at Madison Square Garden,

"That might been the greatest I've ever seen," said David Lee, comparing Crawford's performance to those of Gilbert Arenas, Kobe Bryant and Wade. "We were just so happy for him, jumping up and down as he kept getting hotter. There was a play in the second half when he did a step-back move and shot the ball over Shaq. I knew then he was really on fire."

Nate Robinson screamed, "Make way for the human torch," and others yelled at reporters to keep their distance from Crawford, a man still smokin'.



"It was heavenly intervention," said Jerome James, who started in place of Eddy Curry. "He was en fuego."



"My teammates are the ones who got me the ball tonight," Crawford said. "They could be selfish guys and say, 'We're not going to let him score' or whatever, but they were right there with me." A few minutes earlier, as his 52-point - and one-assist - night was only beginning to cool, Crawford pulled a wool sweater over a silk shirt, adjusted the collar, and turned to a reporter. "Is it straight?" he asked. The answer, of course, was "just perfect."

[Edited by - queeniepop on 01-27-2007 12:59 PM]
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1/27/2007  1:01 PM
The "human torch" by Nate and Jerome "heavenly intervention" comments are my personal faves
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1/27/2007  1:04 PM

HAHAHA..............LOok at Wades Face.


Wade-"Commmmmmmmme oooooooooon............ were's my help"
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1/27/2007  1:05 PM


i'm glad there was a pic of that play. i saw it, jamal goes up to shoot and wade just drops his shoulders and head, angry and sad all at once. look at him, the ball hasn't even left jamal's hands yet and wade knows he got owned.
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1/27/2007  1:07 PM
Sorry I missed the game. Crawford is inconsistent, but I love it when he goes off like that (and when he hits game winners at the buzzer).
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1/27/2007  1:08 PM
Wow, great post Queenie. Lets hope this can propel Crawford. He's been having big 4th quarters recently, to say the least.
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1/27/2007  1:10 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Wow, great post Queenie. Lets hope this can propel Crawford. He's been having big 4th quarters recently, to say the least.

From Dougherty's Blog:

Crawford established a franchise record with 16 consecutive field goals.

And they weren’t layups.

In the last five quarters of play, Crawford has scored a ridiculous 75 points.


We are 11-12 with JC starting.

In the month of January (12 games):

20.2 ppg
5.8 apg
3.7 rpg
43.1% FG
35% 3FG
1.1 spg

AS A STARTER 23 GAMES

21.7 ppg
5.4 apg
3.7 rpg (1 Off RPG)
1.3 spg
41.6% FG%
34.9% 3FG%

He would be our leading scorer if he started and have about the same # of assists and FG % as Marbury.

[Edited by - queeniepop on 01-27-2007 1:16 PM]
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