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1/23/2007  10:03 AM
with all this all star talk what about Big Al? He has been boarding and blocking shots like a monster lately. Take a look at his game log

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3832/gamelog;_ylt=ApxWCBC1gsOoQHGfX7ciprCkvLYF

in terms of stats hes better than Curry in almost every way bsides Points.

what do u guys think
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1/23/2007  10:07 AM
He's coming along well. The injuries to their team was a benefit to him. It forced Doc to focus on their youth. I like the fact he's 21 and with all his inconsistent playing time/injuries this season he's a bonafied double double guy.
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1/23/2007  10:22 AM
He's becoming a beast on both ends of the court. He's way ahead of Eddy.
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1/23/2007  10:29 AM
heres a little statistical break down of the last month between some young eastern conference centers (PS I'm not counting Okafor or Bosh cuz they are kind of PF... Also not counting Howard because we already know hes the best..)

-------------FG%----FT%----Pts-----REB----AST----STL----BLK---TO
Curry--------.652----.691----22.7----7.2-----0.8-----0.4----0.7---3.3
Dalembert----.546----.766----11.9----8.7-----0.8-----0.9----1.9---1.9
Jefferson-----.615----.429----9.5-----10.7----0.7-----1.1----1.4---1.2
Bogut--------.579----.690----9.3-----7.5-----1.5-----0.2----2.1---1.5
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1/23/2007  10:32 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

He's becoming a beast on both ends of the court. He's way ahead of Eddy.

strange that his team would be 4 games behind the Knicks in the standings then w/that beast on the floor for their team.

Curry shoots a much higher % & has better scoring #'s... offensively Curry is better than Jefferson... any unbiased observer can see that... defensively Jefferson is the better player, along w/being a better rebounder.

i think it's a close call, but Curry will probably get the nod over Jefferson unless Al gets his PPG total up to about 17 by the time the Allstar votes are tallied.
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1/23/2007  10:46 AM
Al's a couple years younger. He's progressing faster than Curry did. But he's been streaky before.
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1/23/2007  10:50 AM
come on, jefferson is not becomming a game changer. curry changes a game, teams change the way they defend the knicks with curry on the floor Yes his rebounding can be better as can his help defense, but there is no doubt, you have to game plan for curry. End of story...
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1/23/2007  11:11 AM
Posted by Elite:

heres a little statistical break down of the last month between some young eastern conference centers (PS I'm not counting Okafor or Bosh cuz they are kind of PF... Also not counting Howard because we already know hes the best..)

-------------FG%----FT%----Pts-----REB----AST----STL----BLK---TO
Curry--------.652----.691----22.7----7.2-----0.8-----0.4----0.7---3.3
Dalembert----.546----.766----11.9----8.7-----0.8-----0.9----1.9---1.9
Jefferson-----.615----.429----9.5-----10.7----0.7-----1.1----1.4---1.2
Bogut--------.579----.690----9.3-----7.5-----1.5-----0.2----2.1---1.5

It would be more interesting to see full season stats. I'm a fan of big sample sizes.
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1/23/2007  11:12 AM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

He's becoming a beast on both ends of the court. He's way ahead of Eddy.

strange that his team would be 4 games behind the Knicks in the standings then w/that beast on the floor for their team.

Curry shoots a much higher % & has better scoring #'s... offensively Curry is better than Jefferson... any unbiased observer can see that... defensively Jefferson is the better player, along w/being a better rebounder.

i think it's a close call, but Curry will probably get the nod over Jefferson unless Al gets his PPG total up to about 17 by the time the Allstar votes are tallied.

I didn't say he was a beast. I said he was *becoming* one. He's 21 and in his 3rd season and already averaging 14/10/1.5 blks.
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1/23/2007  11:13 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3832

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?statsId=3514

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1/23/2007  11:18 AM
Curry. It's not close.
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1/23/2007  11:20 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I didn't say he was a beast. I said he was *becoming* one. He's 21 and in his 3rd season and already averaging 14/10/1.5 blks.

Curry dominated Al this year in their 2 head to head meetings:

11/24:
Curry - 21 & 10 in 30 min.
Al - 4 & 8 in 18 min.

12/11:
Curry - 30, 12 & 2 in 44 min.
Al - 14, 12 & 4 in 31 min.


to say that Al is way ahead of Curry is quite simply, wrong.
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1/23/2007  11:22 AM
David Lee's got a better case for making the All Star team than Big Al
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1/23/2007  11:27 AM
I would still rather have Curry at this point personally
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1/23/2007  11:39 AM
Al is better defensively and as a rebounder, but Curry is a much more dominant offensive player. I would rather have Curry and just put a defensive PF next to him.
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1/23/2007  12:15 PM
Where did these stats come from? They don't seem accurate. Bogut and Jefferson have been particularly hot lately. Bogut's been dishing a lot of assists as of late. Jefferson's scored in single digits 2 times since December 15th. Please check the #s.

Bogut
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3927/gamelog;_ylt=AhHOcTrlXgJIkXW.pa3blJOkvLYF

Jefferson
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3832/gamelog;_ylt=AhHOcTrlXgJIkXW.pa3blJOkvLYF


Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Elite:

heres a little statistical break down of the last month between some young eastern conference centers (PS I'm not counting Okafor or Bosh cuz they are kind of PF... Also not counting Howard because we already know hes the best..)

-------------FG%----FT%----Pts-----REB----AST----STL----BLK---TO
Curry--------.652----.691----22.7----7.2-----0.8-----0.4----0.7---3.3
Dalembert----.546----.766----11.9----8.7-----0.8-----0.9----1.9---1.9
Jefferson-----.615----.429----9.5-----10.7----0.7-----1.1----1.4---1.2
Bogut--------.579----.690----9.3-----7.5-----1.5-----0.2----2.1---1.5

It would be more interesting to see full season stats. I'm a fan of big sample sizes.

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1/23/2007  1:03 PM
Posted by technomaster:

Where did these stats come from? They don't seem accurate. Bogut and Jefferson have been particularly hot lately. Bogut's been dishing a lot of assists as of late. Jefferson's scored in single digits 2 times since December 15th. Please check the #s.

Bogut
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3927/gamelog;_ylt=AhHOcTrlXgJIkXW.pa3blJOkvLYF

Jefferson
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3832/gamelog;_ylt=AhHOcTrlXgJIkXW.pa3blJOkvLYF


Posted by Bonn1997:
Posted by Elite:

heres a little statistical break down of the last month between some young eastern conference centers (PS I'm not counting Okafor or Bosh cuz they are kind of PF... Also not counting Howard because we already know hes the best..)

-------------FG%----FT%----Pts-----REB----AST----STL----BLK---TO
Curry--------.652----.691----22.7----7.2-----0.8-----0.4----0.7---3.3
Dalembert----.546----.766----11.9----8.7-----0.8-----0.9----1.9---1.9
Jefferson-----.615----.429----9.5-----10.7----0.7-----1.1----1.4---1.2
Bogut--------.579----.690----9.3-----7.5-----1.5-----0.2----2.1---1.5

It would be more interesting to see full season stats. I'm a fan of big sample sizes.

I looked a little funny at them too, but I gave Elite the benefit of the doubt. Good catch. These stats are not accurate. The to-date season stats are more relevant anyway:

Curry - 19.3 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.7 ast, 0.4 stl, 0.6 blks, 58% FG, 61% FT, 3.3 TO
Dalembert - 10.4 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 0.6 ast, 0.7 stl, 2.1 blks, 57% FG, 72% FT, 1.7 TO
Jefferson - 14.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, 0.9 ast, 0.4 stl, 1.5 blks, 50% FG, 70% FT, 2.1 TO
Bogut - 12.5 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 3.1 ast, 0.8 stl, 0.6 blks, 57% FG, 63% FT, 2.4 TO
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1/23/2007  1:06 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by Bonn1997:

I didn't say he was a beast. I said he was *becoming* one. He's 21 and in his 3rd season and already averaging 14/10/1.5 blks.

Curry dominated Al this year in their 2 head to head meetings:

11/24:
Curry - 21 & 10 in 30 min.
Al - 4 & 8 in 18 min.

12/11:
Curry - 30, 12 & 2 in 44 min.
Al - 14, 12 & 4 in 31 min.


to say that Al is way ahead of Curry is quite simply, wrong.

Al IS way ahead of Curry in all phases of the game except scoring and at 21 he's not too far behind Curry there either (19 vs. 14 PPG).
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1/23/2007  1:11 PM
that's kinda like saying Apple's way ahead of Microsoft in every area of technology except for computer hardware... bottomline is, Curry is the player that would rate as the better player at this point, regardless of how you feel about how weak Curry may be in certain areas of his game.

if the argument is that at comparable stages in their development, that Jefferson is ahead of Curry, then i will agree w/u there, but right now, Curry is the better player & holds more regard throughout the league & in value in trades imo.
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1/23/2007  1:14 PM
Posted by TMS:

that's kinda like saying Apple's way ahead of Microsoft in every area of technology except for computer hardware... bottomline is, Curry is the player that would rate as the better player at this point, regardless of how you feel about how weak Curry may be in certain areas of his game.

if the argument is that at comparable stages in their development, that Jefferson is ahead of Curry, then i will agree w/u there, but right now, Curry is the better player & holds more regard throughout the league & in value in trades imo.
I'm not even sure you're right but who cares what the rest of the league would think? They're often a step slow on the young kids who weren't drafted very high. (Bynum & Jefferson come to mind.)
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