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buddapaw
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1/17/2007  11:35 AM
Just like how Mark took Curry to summer school for his post up moves and it has shown some improvement. Why can't the Knicks do the same with Frye but who is the rebounding specialist? Summer school for Lee is also in order for shooting.
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1/17/2007  11:41 AM
We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/17/2007  11:47 AM
why does everyone say Lee needs to learn how to shoot when he improved his FT% from bad to very good........ He hits the open shot consistently he just doesent force up jumpers. You could argue Lee could learn some dribble-pull up moves or some offensive "Moves" if you want him to start creating his own shots... but its really not neccisarry. I am TOTALLY comfortable wit Lee taking a 15 foot open shot. He has drained it a lot more than people give him credit for
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1/17/2007  11:54 AM
They can always get better don't you think??? Sheesh
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1/17/2007  11:55 AM
Posted by buddapaw:

Just like how Mark took Curry to summer school for his post up moves and it has shown some improvement. Why can't the Knicks do the same with Frye but who is the rebounding specialist? Summer school for Lee is also in order for shooting.

these things don't happen over night and we should be watching and expecting incremental steps from the players. It takes a commitment from both the players and the coaching staff for it to happen. The natural ability has to be present.

DLee increased his FT% a LOT over the summer. Frye didn't have the luxury of the summer because of the knee and it's hard to practice during the season.

I am OK with Curry these days cause he has shown progress on the O side of things. D is next.
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1/17/2007  11:57 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.

it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.
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1/17/2007  11:58 AM
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why does everyone say Lee needs to learn how to shoot when he improved his FT% from bad to very good........ He hits the open shot consistently he just doesent force up jumpers. You could argue Lee could learn some dribble-pull up moves or some offensive "Moves" if you want him to start creating his own shots... but its really not neccisarry. I am TOTALLY comfortable wit Lee taking a 15 foot open shot. He has drained it a lot more than people give him credit for

hitting ten jumpshots in a season doesnt mean you can shoot.
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1/17/2007  12:01 PM
Posted by martin:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.

it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

There will always be a bad example to point to but we are a league leader (#2) in rebounding differential as well as (#1) in total rebounds. Its very rare we get out rebounded. We have been a very solid rebounding club for 2 seasons.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/17/2007  12:03 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by martin:
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We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.

it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

There will always be a bad example to point to but we are a league leader (#2) in rebounding differential as well as (#1) in total rebounds. Its very rare we get out rebounded. We have been a very solid rebounding club for 2 seasons.

could it be that we can't shoot and there are tons of balls to grab?
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1/17/2007  12:04 PM
rebounding is all hustle. It's like the commercial says Experience "The Hustle" David Lee. You can't teach hustle like L Brown says. Frye will probably never be a strong rebounder, he should focus on using those long arms to be a shot blocker.

About Lee, thinking about it, it would be nice if he could develop a jumpshot, but thinking about it some more it would be nice if I could drive a Ferrari. Somethings just will never happen; he is still effective without a jumpshot, dennis rodman couldn't shoot and he still left an impact on the game, he also couldnt shoot FTs.

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1/17/2007  12:07 PM
Posted by martin:
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Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.

it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

There will always be a bad example to point to but we are a league leader (#2) in rebounding differential as well as (#1) in total rebounds. Its very rare we get out rebounded. We have been a very solid rebounding club for 2 seasons.

could it be that we can't shoot and there are tons of balls to grab?

That would help us be a leader in total rebounds but not rebound differential. In fact since defensive rebounds are more common that would hurt as in rebound differential but we are #2 in the nba in rebound differential. We rarely get outrebounded.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/17/2007  12:18 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
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Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.

it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

There will always be a bad example to point to but we are a league leader (#2) in rebounding differential as well as (#1) in total rebounds. Its very rare we get out rebounded. We have been a very solid rebounding club for 2 seasons.

could it be that we can't shoot and there are tons of balls to grab?

That would help us be a leader in total rebounds but not rebound differential. In fact since defensive rebounds are more common that would hurt as in rebound differential but we are #2 in the nba in rebound differential. We rarely get outrebounded.

missed shot rebounds (by our own team) is an offensive number, so it would pad the differential. Nothing to do with defensive rebounds.
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1/17/2007  12:23 PM
Posted by martin:



it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

Wait up... did you say TONS of examples where we could have won if Curry had boxed out late....?

We're 6-1 in close games decided by three or less points. If Curry failing to box out is the cause of TONS of losses, I fail to see the evidence of it this season.
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1/17/2007  12:25 PM
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We lead the league in rebounding. There is only 1 ball. I have noticed that Curry and Frye both get more rebounds when Lee and Qrich are not on the court. Its important that we get the rebounds but we dont want our guys fighting each other for them.

it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

There will always be a bad example to point to but we are a league leader (#2) in rebounding differential as well as (#1) in total rebounds. Its very rare we get out rebounded. We have been a very solid rebounding club for 2 seasons.

could it be that we can't shoot and there are tons of balls to grab?

That would help us be a leader in total rebounds but not rebound differential. In fact since defensive rebounds are more common that would hurt as in rebound differential but we are #2 in the nba in rebound differential. We rarely get outrebounded.

missed shot rebounds (by our own team) is an offensive number, so it would pad the differential. Nothing to do with defensive rebounds.

LOL I'm talking rebound differential. If we miss a shot who is more likely to grab the rebound? Us or the opposing team? Sinde defensive rebounds are much more common it would be the other team. Hense the other teams defensive rebounds would go up more than our offensive rebounds with 10 extra missed shots. That would lower our rebound differential. Rebound differential means our rebounds over our opponents rebounds. We are #2 in the nba in rebound differential.
Also your basic theeory is off anyway. We are not a poor shooting team. We shoot 45.7% thats slighly above average in the nba.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/17/2007  12:31 PM
Posted by kam77:
Posted by martin:



it's not so much the raw rebounding numbers a player has but the boxing out and % of rebounds the Knicks are getting as a team from available rebounds.

Tons of examples where the Knicks could have won a game if Curry had boxed out late in games instead of just watching the ball.

Wait up... did you say TONS of examples where we could have won if Curry had boxed out late....?

We're 6-1 in close games decided by three or less points. If Curry failing to box out is the cause of TONS of losses, I fail to see the evidence of it this season.

close games are also marked by fouling late to get the ball back... so this would push the score to more than 3 points. could be that games that should have been won because of a box out went into overtime... which ended up with a win.
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