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Kirilenko, who earns $12.36 million salary this season and is owed another $63 million over the next four years, finished the game without a basket for the first time all season (he was 0-for-4 from the field), and was badly faked a couple of times by Gilbert Arenas on the defensive end.
The 25-year-old seemed invisible on the floor much of the game. But as subpar as his play was, his body language was even worse. As the Jazz and Wizards grabbed the lead back and forth in the final minutes of Monday's game, the Jazz's bench was standing and cheering on every possession - except for Kirilenko, who sat quietly on the last chair, his view of the court blocked.
After the game, Kirilenko dressed quickly and left the locker room before the media was admitted. Before the game, he said only that he felt fine, that he was playing as hard as ever. "It's tough to lose," he said of the Jazz's losing streak.
But it's even tougher on Sloan, who must fear he is slowly losing one of his best players. "I've never told him not to shoot, never told him not to run hard, never told him he had to make spectacular passes," Sloan said. "Every player goes through this. It's a matter of, how do you fight out of it?"
One popular theory holds that Kirilenko feels shut out of the offense by the rise of Mehmet Okur and Carlos Boozer. But during Utah's relatively successful run last March and April, when the Jazz played four forwards at once, Kirilenko averaged 15.8 points and frequently flourished alongside his high-scoring teammates.
So for the moment, Sloan said he has no intention of benching Kirilenko. "We're trying to help him in any way we can. You can see how important he is to our team," Sloan said. "But it's up to him to play."


I WOULD TRADE LEE , FRYE, AND ANYBODY ELSE TO GET THE DOMINANT RUSSIAN !!!

Q/Jefferies and Frye

No Lee

He does what lee and frye does combined together . UTAH has to get another white guy who's a potential star if they give up Kirilenko.

Lee on Utah would mean big bucks in sloan's system.

This is a business 1st for players fans keep forgetting that.

Loyalty has been thrown out of the window.

IMHO Kirilenko is dogging it to get out of Utah and NY would be the best stage for him.

[Edited by - playa2 on 01-17-2007 00:47]

Kirilenko is definitely the player we need, but I can't see why the Jazz would trade him. This seems like pure speculation.

For Kirilenko, I'd easily give up Lee, Frye and picks or a package to that effect. Kirilenko is a very good rebounder. You have to remember he puts up those stats mostly from the SF position, playing next to two very good rebounders in Okur and Boozer. Lee doesn't have any contention for rebounds on the Knicks. As a replacement for Lee, Kirilenko would put up at least 9-10 boards a game.

I can't see us getting him, but if we trade for him, ideally, it would be some package like Marbury, Nate, Frye and picks for him. I wouldn't want to give up Lee in a Kirilenko trade, but it could be necessary.

Curry and Kiri could be a nasty 1-2 combination if we ever could make it happen.

isn't he injury prone?

Posted by Silverfuel:

isn't he injury prone?

Yes. Not quite as bad as Camby was when he was here, but yes. That may be our in to a potential trade for him. I'm okay with a player being somewhat injury prone, as long as they continue to successfully return from injury and are ready for the playoffs.

Posted by Solace:

Posted by Nalod:

Posted by Silverfuel:

isn't he injury prone?

Isn't he white?

To go with arguments a while back, no, he's Russian.

j/k

Why does that matter?

It doesn't at all. Just funny that the first one we talk about trading is Dlee. As if we can only have one white player.

I don't think it said anything about a trade, just that the kid is mixed up. Team is winning without him and his ego is taking a beating. All players put a towel over their head from time to time!

Maybe his wife turned the tables on him and has been getting some on the side?

AK47 and Dlee at the forwards spot? I gotta admit that would be cool. But AK47 scares me with all of his back issues. Camby would get hurt but AK has more of a chronic condition like Q with his back and on top of that he gets hurt with other stuff as well. I don't think the Knicks have anything to trade them anyway. They wont want Frye unless they were convinced that he could flourish running the pick and roll with Deron. But they already have Okur to do that. The one guy that would interest them in my opinion would be Balkman but obviously more players would need to be added.

Andrei Kirilenko
6-9 SF from Russia (Foreign)
9.1 ppg, 5.2 rpg, 3.5 apg in 32.1 minutes
Incoming
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
16.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 4.4 apg in 36.9 minutes
Jared Jeffries
6-11 SF from Indiana
5.6 ppg, 5.4 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.9 minutes
Mardy Collins
6-6 SG from Temple
1.8 ppg, 0.6 rpg, 0.1 apg in 4.6 minutes

Thats a good trade for both teams and gets rid of two long term deals, his value has to be dropping and this would give the knicks great balance......We need to start getting rid of these deals and Crawfords deal combined with Jefferies is a good start.....

Marbury
Q/Nate
AK47/Balkman
Lee/Frye
Curry/Cato

We add the defender we thought we were getting in jefferies

I'd consider Frye and Nate(the same package I would give up for Smith). I'd also do Frye+Jefferies or any Stevie deal in a heartbeat.

However, I prefer Josh Smith over Andrei.

Having both Andrei and Q on the same team worries me too.

Posted by TMS:

Jazz ain't trading him unless he says he wants out, & even then it's going to take more than any Frye package to get him... we'd have to include Lee at the very least in the deal.

That's what I would be afraid of too. Kirilenko is one of the top 10 players in this league IMHO and although he doesn't get the credit he deserves, he is that good. It's tough to see the Jazz trading him, and even tougher to see them trading him to us, but if we got Kirilenko (as I did in my PS2 game), I think we'd be most pleased. Kiri is the kind of player who could make up for a lot of Eddy Curry's flaws. That would be a nasty combo.