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Andrew
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1/14/2007  11:06 PM
Didn't realize how bad his shooting has been until I checked his stats.

.384 on FGs
.303 on 3pt

Highest turnover rate in his career at 2.6 a game.
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1/14/2007  11:30 PM 

starter         bench
21 games        17 games
42 mins         31 mins
19.9 pts        13.6 pts
5.3 asts        3.1 asts
3.6 rebs        2.4 rebs
3.1 to's        2.1 to's
39.4 fg%        36.7 fg%
18 fga          12.4 fga
31.8 3fg%       27.6 3fg%
6.3 3fga        4.5 3fga
85.7 ft%        78.9 ft%
4.3 fta         4.2 fta
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1/14/2007  11:31 PM
You mean bad like...

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1/14/2007  11:33 PM
Id like to see his per minute bench and starter number tho. its true that he puts up better numbers when he starts but, he also plays a good deal more minutes.
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1/14/2007  11:49 PM
Posted by SlimPack:

Id like to see his per minute bench and starter number tho. its true that he puts up better numbers when he starts but, he also plays a good deal more minutes.


starter         bench
21 games        17 games
42 mins         31 mins
19.9 pts        13.6 pts
5.3 asts        3.1 asts
3.6 rebs        2.4 rebs
3.1 to's        2.1 to's
39.4 fg%        36.7 fg%
18 fga          12.4 fga
31.8 3fg%       27.6 3fg%
6.3 3fga        4.5 3fga
85.7 ft%        78.9 ft%
4.3 fta         4.2 fta

per 48 minutes:

starter         bench
22.7 pts        21.1 pts
6.0 asts        4.8 asts
4.1 rebs        3.7 rebs
3.5 to's        3.3 to's
39.5 fg%        36.5 fg%
20.5 fga        19.2 fga
30 3fg%         30 3fg%
7.2 3fga        7.0 3fga
90 ft%          80 ft%
4.9 fta         6.5 fta


[Edited by - djsunyc on 01-15-2007 08:13 AM]
djsunyc
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1/15/2007  7:25 AM
the differences between crawford as a starter or as a sub is an increase in assists (+1.2) but also a decrease in free throw attemps (-1.6).

outside of that, his per minute production is about the same.
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1/15/2007  8:03 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by SlimPack:

Id like to see his per minute bench and starter number tho. its true that he puts up better numbers when he starts but, he also plays a good deal more minutes.


starter         bench
21 games        17 games
42 mins         31 mins
19.9 pts        13.6 pts
5.3 asts        3.1 asts
3.6 rebs        2.4 rebs
3.1 to's        2.1 to's
39.4 fg%        36.7 fg%
18 fga          12.4 fga
31.8 3fg%       27.6 3fg%
6.3 3fga        4.5 3fga
85.7 ft%        78.9 ft%
4.3 fta         4.2 fta

per 48 minutes:

starter         bench
22.7 pts        21.1 pts
6.0 asts        4.8 asts
4.1 rebs        3.7 rebs
3.5 to's        3.3 to's
40 fg%          40 fg%
20.5 fga        19.2 fga
30 3fg%         30 3fg%
7.2 3fga        7.0 3fga
90 ft%          80 ft%
4.9 fta         6.5 fta

DJ, those stats you posted have a mistake. Percentages don't change when you do them per xy minutes. They're already a ratio.
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djsunyc
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1/15/2007  8:13 AM
Posted by Solace:

DJ, those stats you posted have a mistake. Percentages don't change when you do them per xy minutes. They're already a ratio.

the percentages are rounded UP (my mistake via excel)

in the case of a starter: he makes 7.1 shots on 18.0 attempts
prorated to 48 mins: he makes 8.1 shots on 20.5 attempts which comes out to 39.5 %

in the case of a sub: he makes 4.5 shots on 12.4 attempts
prorated to 48 mins: he makes 7.0 shots on 19.2 attempts which comes out to 36.5 %

i updated the stats

[Edited by - djsunyc on 01-15-2007 08:14 AM]
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1/15/2007  8:15 AM
Bottom line...

10-11 when Jamal starts
6-11 when Jamal is a 6th man

I'll take 10-11!!! And the 6.0 ppg and almost 3% in FG% Oh yeah, the assists are much higher as well.

And...Marbury plays much better as a starter next to him. With Jamal in the SL, he made about 50% of his shots versus under 40% without him
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1/15/2007  8:29 AM
10-11, 6-11, big whop, both records suck. They're both crap, and it's just a matter of taking the less of the crappy.

It's like I've said, the whole backcourt needs to be blown out, and if that means getting rid of Jamal, so be it. Love the guy, but he's not a proven winning player.
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1/15/2007  8:51 AM
Posted by Queeniepop:

Bottom line...

10-11 when Jamal starts
6-11 when Jamal is a 6th man

I'll take 10-11!!! And the 6.0 ppg and almost 3% in FG% Oh yeah, the assists are much higher as well.

And...Marbury plays much better as a starter next to him. With Jamal in the SL, he made about 50% of his shots versus under 40% without him
Someone has to put a leash on his shooting though. He has all the talent to drive into the lane and get fouled. Dude should stop shooting unless he is open.
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1/15/2007  8:52 AM
Posted by djsunyc:

the percentages are rounded UP (my mistake via excel)
you have a spreadsheet of the teams stats? DAMN!!
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1/15/2007  9:47 AM
Crawford is not that good, everyone is under some flash notion that he is part of the future, you can find players like him wherever you look in this league. He has digressed as a player partly because there is no coaching out there. Its just go out and play and have a good time, you have the green light, shoot whenever you want.

He has really been the most disapointing player on the team this year
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1/15/2007  9:49 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by djsunyc:

the percentages are rounded UP (my mistake via excel)
you have a spreadsheet of the teams stats? DAMN!!

no man. i'm a loser but not that big a loser. just put his #'s in the spreadsheet to calculate.
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1/15/2007  9:51 AM
Posted by Queeniepop:

I'll take 10-11!!!
of course you will. For so many around here that would merit Isiah a 3 year extension and possibly a parade.

I think Jamal, like Lee and most other players do better with a lot of minutes. We really need an 8-9 man rotation.

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1/15/2007  9:54 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Queeniepop:

I'll take 10-11!!!
of course you will. For so many around here that would merit Isiah a 3 year extension and possibly a parade.

I think Jamal, like Lee and most other players do better with a lot of minutes. We really need an 8-9 man rotation.

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1/15/2007  10:32 AM
why not five?
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1/15/2007  1:48 PM
Posted by Allanfan20:

10-11, 6-11, big whop, both records suck. They're both crap, and it's just a matter of taking the less of the crappy.

It's like I've said, the whole backcourt needs to be blown out, and if that means getting rid of Jamal, so be it. Love the guy, but he's not a proven winning player.

you're right, it's nothing to get excited over, but if you're going to get rid of Crawford for not being a winning player, the same must be done for Marbury... IMHO, if you let Jamal start at PG he'd be a much more efficient player... but if you have to get rid of him, then you need to get yourself a big, physical defensive minded G who can hit the open jumper to play alongside Marbury.
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1/15/2007  1:53 PM
Crawford has to get it out his head that he's a starter and find it in himself to give his best when he comes off the bench. He's not Michael Jordon or Kobe Bryant or Dwayne Wade. He hasn't established himself to the point where he should expect a starting job. He should be satisfied with being in the rotation.
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1/15/2007  2:00 PM
I can't believe that around the back play he tried a few min. ago. It looked like he was just trying to put on a show instead of playing hard to win.
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