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the bright side of isiah thomas
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djsunyc
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1/10/2007  1:10 PM


By LZ Granderson
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Isiah Thomas is a bit sneaky.

Isiah Thomas is a bit belligerent.

Isiah Thomas is a bit mathematically challenged.

But if I was rebuilding an NBA team, Isiah Thomas would be the first person I'd call.


In the Big Apple, Isiah is always the
center of media scrutiny.


Why? Renaldo Balkman.

I was sitting in Madison Square Garden the night Isiah made Balkman the 20th pick in the 2006 NBA draft. I heard the boos and the scathing criticism. I also couldn't believe he didn't select UConn guard Marcus Williams -- at least for the purpose of having tradable talent.

And yet here we are, seven months later, and I can't find another rookie picked outside of the top 10 that makes more of a consistent impact when he's in the game than Balkman. I'm not saying Balkman's going to be a star, but I am saying it appears Isiah has done it again.

For all of Thomas' shortcomings as a general manager -- and he has his fair share of them -- his greatest strength, identifying talent, is among the best in the league. When you consider that eight teams passed on Tracy McGrady, six teams passed on eventual Rookie of the Year Damon Stoudamire, he swapped a faltering 34-year-old Kurt Thomas for a fairly talented 26-year-old Quentin Richardson, he plucked David Lee (the only second-year player averaging a double-double) with the 30th pick, and he watched Chicago overpay for 32-year-old Ben Wallace while 24-year-old Eddy Curry is developing into one of the best centers in the league, you begin to see that maybe, just maybe, Thomas isn't the fool so many pundits paint him to be.

Yes, the Knicks are below .500 and have been for much of his three-year tenure. But like it or not, they are only one game out of first place heading into Wednesday's game against Philadelphia. And while it is true that the Atlantic Division is downright awful, of all the teams that did not make the playoffs last year, the Knicks have the best core of young talent. Consequently, they are a lot closer to regular playoff appearances and being NBA Finals contenders than you may think.

Yeah, that's right, I said it.

If Lee, Curry, Richardson, Channing Frye and Jared Jeffries stay healthy and together, within three years they will be in a tug-of-war with LeBron James' and Dwight Howard's squads for supremacy in the East.

Unfortunately, the architect behind this will not be there to see it happen. And that's too bad, because before Thomas arrived in December 2003, this team had no hope at all. Now, I see a young squad that is beginning to understand how to beat good teams. These Knicks should lose to Phoenix, San Antonio and Dallas, because one of those three teams is going to win the championship this year. But they are 10-10 after their 5-11 start and watching Curry dominate Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace in wins over the Bulls and Pistons I can see better days are not too far ahead.


Gotta give Zeke credit for David Lee
-- he's been outstanding.


Don't get me wrong, Thomas can be prickly. And he's made his share of personnel mistakes -- Jalen Rose, Jerome James and Malik Rose, to name three -- but I can't fault him for being aggressive. He gave up Trevor Ariza, a No. 43 pick, for a shot at seeing whether three time All-Star Steve Francis could coexist with Stephon Marbury. I don't fault him for trading Keith Van Horn for Tim Thomas because, as we saw during last year's playoffs, Thomas is an incredible talent when motivated.

And I especially no longer fault him for drafting Balkman, who blocks more shots than No. 2 pick LaMarcus Aldridge, grabs more rebounds than No. 4 pick Tyrus Thomas, and has managed to earn 14.3 minutes per game and cheers at The Garden while the Warriors sent Patrick O'Bryant, their No. 9 pick, to the D-League. Balkman is a guy few thought would make an NBA roster, and yet his 15 rebounds in a 97-96 win over Utah is the most a rookie has grabbed this season. Some say Isiah could have gotten Balkman in the second round, or even signed him as a free agent. I say take a look at the 2006 NBA draft and point out a player selected after Balkman who could have helped the Knicks more this season.

Thomas gets blamed for the CBA's filing for bankruptcy, but few mention that the league was headed in that direction before Thomas even got involved.

Critics say the Pacers floundered with Thomas as coach, but few care to mention the roster he inherited was not the roster Larry Bird led to the Finals the season before. Or that he was dealing with Ron Artest before the general public knew what a distraction Ron Ron could be.

And now Thomas is being blamed for the futility of the Knicks, as if a championship banner was unfurled the day before he arrived. This franchise has not won it all since 1973. It hasn't done anything of significance since making the Finals in the shortened season of 1999-2000. But that doesn't matter, everyone is out for Thomas' blood and he is certain to be run out of New York. Then a new guy is going to come in, find a point guard who works, and ride Thomas' eye for talent to a 50-win season.

Some say Isiah faces extra scrutiny because he's black. I'm not sure if that's true. After all, Zeke has made a lot of enemies and burned a lot of bridges over the years -- and that was before that strange sexual harrassment lawsuit. But if snake oilers such as Don Nelson, Larry Brown and Pat Riley can still find work, so should Thomas. Because the truth is if you look at his entire post-playing resume -- and not just the bad -- you will find an incredibly sharp basketball mind. One who has this uncanny ability to spot talent where other "geniuses" see none.

I would hire him. I just wouldn't leave him alone with the checkbook.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 01-10-2007 1:23 PM]
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kam77
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1/10/2007  1:15 PM
Let someone else like Glen Grunwald be in control of Free Agency decisions and let Isiah focus on the draft and on coaching up this team he assembled. We'll be fine.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/10/2007  1:18 PM
He's a top tier talent scout at best, but Isiah's EGO tells him he can be more

[Edited by - playa2 on 01-10-2007 06:26]
JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.
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1/10/2007  1:20 PM
Obviously this guy has been reading my many post about Isiah...

I swear I started a thread with the same heading...



[Edited by - holfresh on 01-10-2007 1:24 PM]
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1/10/2007  1:24 PM

Guys it's not always easy to get a nice neat package that does everything you want...Isiah has his shortcoming but his positives out weight the negatives...The heavy lifting is over...He doesn't have to make he wild trades anymore...This team needs tweaking, playing time and big game experience...I really believe the Knicks are on their way...
djsunyc
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1/10/2007  1:24 PM
Posted by kam77:

Let someone else like Glen Grunwald be in control of Free Agency decisions and let Isiah focus on the draft and on coaching up this team he assembled. We'll be fine.


if we can hire a GM and isiah is willing to take a reduced role in that respect, then even I may be willing to BEGIN to ENTERTAIN the thoughts of the POSSIBILITY of keeping isiah around.

but the chances of isiah taking a reduced role are probably slim to none.
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1/10/2007  1:25 PM
Isiah himself said... I can't do the GM job if i'm coaching, and he asked MSG to go out and hire Glen Grunwald to take care of the GMing duties.

It looks like Isiahs is able to control his ego. After all, he wants to win at all costs this year, and asking for help is him admitting he isn't superhuman.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/10/2007  1:25 PM
These articles are show absurd its scary, the bottom line is money and wins. Thomas has spent more than any gms and made an unbelievable amount of mistakes that any other gm would have lost his job for. You want to give him credit for a couple of young chips, you can do so, but he is a liar and snake, and once the knicks buyout francis you can add him to the list of people still on the payroll because of Isiah Thomas

For the year
Shandon 8 million, won't count him
Taylor 9 Million
Rose 15 million
Wilkens 5 Million
Larry 10 Million

39 million for people that aren't even involved in the organization add, Francis, Jerome James, Jared Jefferies to the mix and your in the 60 milions for players that aren't making a difference. He is not a thinking, doesn't have a plan just keeps doing and doing and hoping....You want to add Malik Rose to the mix since he is out of the rotation and has two years left at 7 million you can do that also......

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1/10/2007  1:27 PM
Posted by holfresh:


Guys it's not always easy to get a nice neat package that does everything you want...Isiah has his shortcoming but his positives out weight the negatives...The heavy lifting is over...He doesn't have to make he wild trades anymore...This team needs tweaking, playing time and big game experience...I really believe the Knicks are on their way...

isiah's a volume shooter. will he hit some 3's? yes. but he needs to take 10 to hit 3.

to get out of the layden rut in a more expeditious manner, we needed a higher % guy. so instead of it taking 6 years, it probably could've taken 3.

so in essence, we have the john starks of a GM instead of, well, i guess a joe dumars.
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1/10/2007  1:27 PM
How does the money spent on Coaches matter when it doesn't affect our cap? You're reaching too far to bash Isiah. Mention the fact he hired the wrong coaches and i'm in complete agreement. He could've spent $1 to sign LB and it still would be considered a disastrous move.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/10/2007  1:28 PM
Joe Dumars isht doesn't stink now?

OKAY...... two words

Darko Milicic
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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1/10/2007  1:29 PM
Posted by kam77:

Joe Dumars isht doesn't stink now?

OKAY...... two words

Darko Milicic

two words - nba championship
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1/10/2007  1:31 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by holfresh:


Guys it's not always easy to get a nice neat package that does everything you want...Isiah has his shortcoming but his positives out weight the negatives...The heavy lifting is over...He doesn't have to make he wild trades anymore...This team needs tweaking, playing time and big game experience...I really believe the Knicks are on their way...

isiah's a volume shooter. will he hit some 3's? yes. but he needs to take 10 to hit 3.

to get out of the layden rut in a more expeditious manner, we needed a higher % guy. so instead of it taking 6 years, it probably could've taken 3.

so in essence, we have the john starks of a GM instead of, well, i guess a joe dumars.

I hear you but I think we needed John Stalks out there...No other GM would have the gonads to make the changes and take the chances that Isiah took...Some of those moves yielded quality draft picks...It will be truly unfair to have someone else to reap the benefits of Isiah's hard work..



[Edited by - holfresh on 01-10-2007 1:39 PM]
djsunyc
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1/10/2007  1:31 PM
Posted by kam77:

Joe Dumars isht doesn't stink now?

OKAY...... two words

Darko Milicic

and the comparison is between starks - a streaky defensive minded guard that ultimately turned out to be the goat of the finals while dumars is the steady, higher %, defensive assassin that helped his team win a title.
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1/10/2007  1:32 PM
I am just saying he is ****ing idiot that rushes things instead of thinking them through....

The James signing
The Francis trade
The JJ signing

-Huge deal when you considering thats 25 million in salary for three years, and the jj's are signed long term.....I don't think you would here that many complaints if these moves weren't made

Cato? cost nothing Nate? what position does he play.... Balkman? He is already more valuable than jefferies......

Signing Lenny right away
hiring Larry
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1/10/2007  1:34 PM
And if your going to draft a stopper and sign a stopper that plays the same position he should have been more aggressive with Artest.....

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1/10/2007  1:35 PM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by holfresh:


Guys it's not always easy to get a nice neat package that does everything you want...Isiah has his shortcoming but his positives out weight the negatives...The heavy lifting is over...He doesn't have to make he wild trades anymore...This team needs tweaking, playing time and big game experience...I really believe the Knicks are on their way...

isiah's a volume shooter. will he hit some 3's? yes. but he needs to take 10 to hit 3.

to get out of the layden rut in a more expeditious manner, we needed a higher % guy. so instead of it taking 6 years, it probably could've taken 3.

so in essence, we have the john starks of a GM instead of, well, i guess a joe dumars.

I hear you but I think we needed John Stalks out there...No other GM would have to gonads to to make the changes and take the chances that Isiah took...Some of those moves yielded quality draft picks...It will be truly unfair to have someone else to reap the benefits of Isiah's hard work..


i disagree, we needed a SMART gm that was going to take his time to fix stuff. not being aggressive is not the same as not having gonads.
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1/10/2007  1:37 PM
you guys are funny
"We need another shot blocker and we need more girth in the middle, once that happens we have a chance to be a pretty decent team" Isiah on draft night
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1/10/2007  1:48 PM
Isiah is the Anti-Christ

The sooner he leaves the sooner we have peace on the UK board.
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1/10/2007  2:06 PM
Good artical... the free agent signings ahve really hurt Isiah but besides that and the Francis deal he has been a decent GM
the bright side of isiah thomas

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