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Lenovo +/- Stat (Guess who's on top)
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Elite
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1/10/2007  9:50 AM
http://www.nba.com/statistics/lenovo/lenovo_sort.jsp?pcomb=1&season=22006&split=9&team=Knicks

What is the Lenovo +/- Stat?
The Lenovo Stat is a plus/minus statistic that looks at the point differential when players are both in and out of the game, to see how the team performs with various combinations. The Lenovo Stat can look at a variety of combinations – including the best two player, three player and even five player combinations for each game.


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Elite
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1/10/2007  9:53 AM
oh and Marbury is the worst.

oh and Lee + Balkman is our best 2 player combo

oh and QRICH + Curry + Nate (the 3 point shooters complimenting big eddy down low) is our best 3 player combo

Our best 5 man combo (which is amongst the worst in the league)
is Francis, Jamal, Balkman, Lee, Curry
Masterplan
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1/10/2007  10:00 AM
Posted by Elite:

oh and Lee + Balkman is our best 2 player combo

oh and QRICH + Curry + Nate (the 3 point shooters complimenting big eddy down low) is our best 3 player combo

Our best 5 man combo (which is amongst the worst in the league)
is Francis, Jamal, Balkman, Lee, Curry

i wonder. purely abstractly, wouldn't that suggest nate-Q-balkman-lee-curry would be our best 5 player combo? has that lineup ever been tried?
Anji
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1/10/2007  10:31 AM
Posted by Elite:

oh and Marbury is the worst.

oh and Lee + Balkman is our best 2 player combo

oh and QRICH + Curry + Nate (the 3 point shooters complimenting big eddy down low) is our best 3 player combo

Our best 5 man combo (which is amongst the worst in the league)
is Francis, Jamal, Balkman, Lee, Curry

Shouldn't that tell you how worthless this +/- stats are????
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fishmike
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1/10/2007  11:00 AM
Posted by Anji:
Posted by Elite:

oh and Marbury is the worst.

oh and Lee + Balkman is our best 2 player combo

oh and QRICH + Curry + Nate (the 3 point shooters complimenting big eddy down low) is our best 3 player combo

Our best 5 man combo (which is amongst the worst in the league)
is Francis, Jamal, Balkman, Lee, Curry

Shouldn't that tell you how worthless this +/- stats are????

+/- numbers arent worthless at all. It just depends on the sampling. When a hitter has a good week in April do you really think he's going to project to hit 100 homers and 250 RBIs? Cato played very well for that 2 week stretch when guys were suspended, but its a small sampling.

Anyway,

I harped all summer long that Frye was a center, and not suited to play PF in the NBA, and a terrible fit next to Curry.

Frye on draft night: "I'm a center."

You need a dirty work player next to Curry. I suggested (rather than signing JJSkinny) a guy like Reggie Evans would be a great fit, and since Isiah is clearly commited to Curry above all that it made sense to trade Frye (did I mention he's a center?) to fill another need. Pietrus comes to mind as a 2/3 stopper and great open court player.

So lets see whats happened.... Curry and Frye have been terrible together. How many nights have we seen the Knicks go into a large hole and early? And against bad teams?

A big part of the reason Curry/Frye/Marbury dont have better +/- numbers is because Frye/Curry stars and they are terrible together. Frye goes out, in comes Lee at PF and the play instantly gets better. However Marbury always takes the hit on his +/- for those bad starts.

If you look at any line up with Curry/Lee/Marbury and no Frye the +/- numbers are usually good.
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Lenovo +/- Stat (Guess who's on top)

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