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Marbury : "If we can go 2-3, it's not bad,"
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Elite
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1/5/2007  9:20 AM
Is anyone else tired of aiming low?

I mean I kind of agree with Marbury.. 2-3 is.. NOT BAD... I guess... But its also not acceptable if you are trying to be a winning team. 3-2 is acceptable...

I think it starts with Isiah.

Hes always aiming low since the second he got here. Making excuses for failures before we even fail. Its not really a healthy mindstate for your "leader" to have. It obviously spreads throughout the team.

I'm not killing Marbury in this post... I actually think he is playing a lot better lately, its more about the overall AIM LOW attitude of the team.
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1/5/2007  9:25 AM
3-2 is acceptable, 2-3 aint bad...i thought we had already decided that Marbury isnt a leader on this team? So does it matter if he has low expectations?

If he said that 2-3 was unacceptable then how many threads would there be about how Marbury is blasting the job Isiah has done?
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1/5/2007  9:50 AM
given that we're 1-3 on the trip now, then 2-3 is a lot better than 1-4, which i think is what marbury was getting at in his bumbling kind of way.

this road trip was NOT acceptable. sure the record may turn out OK for a tough stretch of games, but were we even trying in those few games?

marbury's MO here has seemed to be lackadaisical play followed by a few furious Starbury games to make up for it. not bad, but not winning basketball.



























































































[Edited by - Masterplan on 01-05-2007 09:51 AM]
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1/5/2007  9:55 AM
Most good teams would find that eve 3-2 is not acceptable. The good team always aim for 5-0. Remember when we were good?
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1/5/2007  10:04 AM
Posted by Allanfan20:

Most good teams would find that eve 3-2 is not acceptable. The good team always aim for 5-0. Remember when we were good?


like when every lost hurt like hell? yea I remember the good ol' days. Now all we get are excuses and low expectations
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1/5/2007  10:06 AM
2-3 is the same winning percentage we have for the season.

Yippee for 14-21.

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1/5/2007  10:07 AM
I think Steph should not be allowed to talk to the press on his own, firstly.

Secondly, 2-3 on the road isn't bad, yeah, but like it's been said, aiming low just isn't cool at all. I know we have to scratch and claw for W's right now but this season we shouldn't be striving for "not bad".
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1/5/2007  12:14 PM
Posted by K22:

I think Steph should not be allowed to talk to the press on his own, firstly.

LOL
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1/5/2007  12:25 PM
I agree with Elite
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1/5/2007  12:46 PM
well their goal should always be to win each game so that would make it 5-0 on this road trip. Truth is we're not an elite team, we are mediocre at best. So 2-3 is realistic, 0-5 is realistic as well. I am not aiming low, I just recognize the situation for what it is. Do i want them to win ? Yes.

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1/5/2007  12:52 PM
stop crucifying Marbury for every single word.

2-3 on the west coast, coming off a draining Detroit game, changing 3 time zones, without Quentin's outside offense and Nate's energy, is not bad. No excuses. This is a young Knicks team still learning in starts and speed bumps.

Not bad

That is all he said

Marbury never said 2-3 was the goal

sheesh

[Edited by - misterearl on 01-05-2007 12:52 PM]
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1/5/2007  12:53 PM
its like the media, you dont like him so you pick apart everything the team does and find all the negatives. It's no different.
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1/5/2007  12:58 PM
Michael - the undercurrent of resentment that many people have towards athletes, like Marbury, who don't conform to their perception of what a ballplayer should look and act like.. that the venom spit in his direction for that privledge outweighs the actual intent of his comments.

what has Marbury really done to offend so many?

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1/5/2007  1:00 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Michael - the undercurrent of resentment that many people have towards athletes, like Marbury, who don't conform to their perception of what a ballplayer should look and act like.. that the venom spit in his direction for that privledge outweighs the actual intent of his comments.

what has Marbury really done to offend so many?

quiting on a team, refusing to listen, saying dumb things to the press, towelbury. Like that.

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1/5/2007  1:01 PM
Posted by misterearl:

No excuses.

i agree.
coming off a draining Detroit game,

1...
changing 3 time zones,

2...
without Quentin's outside offense and Nate's energy,

3 and 4...
This is a young Knicks team still learning in starts and speed bumps.

5!

Five excuses!



by the way, we only go 2-3 if we win tonight...
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1/5/2007  1:05 PM
lol @ the count
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1/5/2007  1:06 PM
Can i once again clarify that this post is not meant to be a bash on Marbury... More of an example of the attitude of the team created by ISIAH. Aim low.
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1/5/2007  1:09 PM
IF we win tonight, saying we went 2-3 on this trip is a nice way of sugarcoating the **** games we had to start it off. losing with a young team is one thing- losing with a team that looked like it didn't give a **** and would rather be out partying is something totally different.
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1/5/2007  1:17 PM
Masterplan - The Count rocks

Elite - you really think the attitude of this Knicks team is characterized by aiming low when Eddy Curry takes responsibility for not playing better?

Is the attitude of a Renaldo Balkman, Channing Frye and David Lee that dismal that you can only see failure ahead?

Mardy Collins takes one for the team and you see no passion?

A total newcomer, fresh off an injury... Jarod Jeffries, tries to chase down a Denver player where just two years ago the entire knicks squad was scared to look Latrell in the face as he cursed the Knicks bench?

If you guys resent the Knicks basketball that much why not simply switch to hockey?
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1/5/2007  1:18 PM
Posted by Elite:

Can i once again clarify that this post is not meant to be a bash on Marbury... More of an example of the attitude of the team created by ISIAH. Aim low.

too late.

[Edited by - babyknicks on 01-05-2007 1:19 PM]
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Marbury : "If we can go 2-3, it's not bad,"

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