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Erniecat
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1/5/2007  1:13 AM
Notice the eighth paragraph.

I only wish Howard Beck had included quotes from Lee. I also wish he would have pointed out that while Isiah makes a case for using Lee as his sixth man, the Knicks constantly find themselves facing quick double-digit deficits due to their poor starts. The article ends abruptly and I have a strong suspicion part of it was left on the editing room floor. Enjoy...



For Knicks’ Lee, Benchwarmer’s Seat Is Usually Cool

By HOWARD BECK
Published: January 5, 2007

SEATTLE, Jan. 4 — David Lee leads the Knicks in rebounds and field-goal percentage, converts free throws at a better rate than Stephon Marbury and averages more assists than Nate Robinson.

The box scores indicate that Lee, a second-year forward, is making an impact. But statistics fail to properly define Lee’s value, and there is no clever formula or high-tech abacus sophisticated enough to capture it.

It is better simply to watch Lee on any possession — a video highlight being worth a thousand statistics.

Consider a sequence from Wednesday’s 99-81 rout of Portland: The Blazers have cut the Knicks’ lead to 9 points in the third quarter. The Knicks’ Jared Jeffries misfires badly on a 3-pointer, and Lee grabs the rebound. He passes back to Jeffries, whose layup is blocked by Joel Przybilla. Lee comes up with the ball again and feeds it to a wide-open Eddy Curry, who hits an easy layup for a 61-50 lead.

After Portland cuts the lead to 9 points again, Marbury misses a 3-pointer and an 8-foot jumper on the same possession. Lee grabs the second rebound, hits a layup and draws a foul for a 3-point play. The lead is back to 70-58 and never dips into single digits again.

Lee had 14 rebounds in the game, 6 on offense, and 4 assists — all solid numbers, yet still not as impressive as the actual plays that produced them. Lee’s rapid ascension, from semi-obscure 2005 draft pick to indispensable role player, has been one of the few highlights of the season.

It has also put Coach Isiah Thomas in the awkward position of having to constantly justify Lee’s spot in the rotation. Lee can play all three frontcourt positions and has been far more productive than the starting forwards, Channing Frye and Jared Jeffries. But Thomas has used Lee off the bench in 23 of 35 games, starting him only when others are injured.

Thomas is asked about Lee’s role at least once a week. It is a topic of discussion among Knicks fans on the Web site ultimateknicks.com, under the heading, “Petition to start David Lee” (32 of 39 respondents clicked “Start him now. What is the hold-up?”).

The answer from Thomas has been consistent. He views Lee as an ideal sixth man, a player whose energy and rebounding can start a rally and alter the game’s dynamics. He can come in at center if Curry is in foul trouble, at power forward if Frye is missing shots and at small forward if Jeffries is out of sorts.

Despite his reserve status, Lee consistently plays more minutes than either Frye or Jeffries. Thomas did not hesitate to yank Jeffries quickly during the Knicks’ losses at Phoenix and Sacramento, sending in Lee each time.

“David’s playing extremely well, and when you got a guy who’s playing as well as he is right now, you don’t necessarily have as much patience as you normally would have with someone who’s playing in front of him,” Thomas said.

In that regard, Lee’s value extends beyond his play. He is also the guy Thomas turns to to remind his starters that their jobs and playing time are not guaranteed.

“It’s great to have him in that position, because he keeps everybody honest out there,” Thomas said. “You can send him in for any of the frontcourt guys. So they all know he’s sitting there waiting to come in. He’s to the big guys what Vinnie Johnson was to Joe Dumars and I.”

It helps that Lee’s production remains fairly constant, regardless of whether he starts (12.7 points, 11.7 rebounds) or comes off the bench (9.7 points, 10.2 rebounds). For the season, Lee is averaging 10.7 points and 10.7 rebounds (seventh in the league). On a per-48-minute basis, Lee averages 17 rebounds, tied for third in the league with Denver’s Marcus Camby. With 3.8 offensive rebounds per game, Lee ranks second in the N.B.A., behind Chicago’s Ben Wallace (3.9). Lee is the only reserve player among the league’s top 20 rebounders.

Other general managers regard Lee as one of the Knicks’ most marketable commodities (because he is young and relatively inexpensive).

REBOUNDS

Quentin Richardson is expected to participate in the Knicks’ shoot-around Friday morning and will be a game-time decision for their game against the SuperSonics. He has missed 10 games because of back spasms. ... Nate Robinson will serve the 10th and final game of his suspension Friday night, missing the chance to play in his hometown.
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1/5/2007  1:20 AM
Enyspree is famous for creating the thread!

Awesome props for the site
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1/5/2007  1:43 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Enyspree is famous for creating the thread!

Awesome props for the site

yeah I'm a genius. I keep telling you mofos that.

See kids, this goes to show you that you can come up with more **** while taking a dump at work.

Hey howie, call me babe we'll do lunch!
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1/5/2007  1:46 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Enyspree is famous for creating the thread!

Awesome props for the site

yeah I'm a genius. I keep telling you mofos that.

See kids, this goes to show you that you can come up with more **** while taking a dump at work.

Hey howie, call me babe we'll do lunch!

LOL!

Eny, you're going to the Nets game with us on Jan. 19 right? Looking forward to meeting you.
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1/5/2007  2:10 AM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Enyspree is famous for creating the thread!

Awesome props for the site

yeah I'm a genius. I keep telling you mofos that.

See kids, this goes to show you that you can come up with more **** while taking a dump at work.

Hey howie, call me babe we'll do lunch!

LOL!

Eny, you're going to the Nets game with us on Jan. 19 right? Looking forward to meeting you.

Not sure if I should bring a tip cup or a taser.
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1/5/2007  2:12 AM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Enyspree is famous for creating the thread!

Awesome props for the site

yeah I'm a genius. I keep telling you mofos that.

See kids, this goes to show you that you can come up with more **** while taking a dump at work.

Hey howie, call me babe we'll do lunch!

LOL!

Eny, you're going to the Nets game with us on Jan. 19 right? Looking forward to meeting you.

Not sure if I should bring a tip cup or a taser.

bring lysol. nyk4ever don't shower.
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1/5/2007  2:31 AM
"OMG - did we just go on a two-trade-wining-streak?" -SupremeCommander
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1/5/2007  9:03 AM
LOL
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1/5/2007  11:47 AM
Lee is keeping people honest haha. In JJ mind I can't play much worse and we have a guy on the bench averaging a double-double and I am still starting.
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1/5/2007  1:19 PM
that is awesome
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1/5/2007  1:50 PM
Wow, nice publicity. Congrats.
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1/5/2007  2:27 PM
I'm highly appreciative that andrew adn martin made this site. I know once in a while people argue over this and that[of corse thats going to be the case]but almost everyone who posts here seem like cool people--thats's one of the reasons the site is so good.
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1/5/2007  2:41 PM
^ --- agreed
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1/5/2007  2:57 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

I'm highly appreciative that andrew adn martin made this site. I know once in a while people argue over this and that[of corse thats going to be the case]but almost everyone who posts here seem like cool people--thats's one of the reasons the site is so good.

Ain't the truth Briggs.

Every now and then it's good to give Martin and Andrew their props for what they've done with this site. In honor of their work, I think they should buy us all a beer at the game on Jan.19
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1/5/2007  2:59 PM
On behalf of Martin and Andrew, I would like to thank all the little people they stepped on along the way....

....maybe on of them can design a seach feature.
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1/5/2007  3:00 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I'm highly appreciative that andrew adn martin made this site. I know once in a while people argue over this and that[of corse thats going to be the case]but almost everyone who posts here seem like cool people--thats's one of the reasons the site is so good.

Ain't the truth Briggs.

Every now and then it's good to give Martin and Andrew their props for what they've done with this site. In honor of their work, I think they should buy us all a beer at the game on Jan.19


"hey andrew, i think they like us."
"that's right martin, you handsome bastard. they really really like us."
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1/5/2007  3:02 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I'm highly appreciative that andrew adn martin made this site. I know once in a while people argue over this and that[of corse thats going to be the case]but almost everyone who posts here seem like cool people--thats's one of the reasons the site is so good.

Ain't the truth Briggs.

Every now and then it's good to give Martin and Andrew their props for what they've done with this site. In honor of their work, I think they should buy us all a beer at the game on Jan.19


"hey andrew, i think they like us."
"that's right martin, you handsome bastard. they really really like us."

Funny...I always thought Martin and Andrew parted their hair on the same side.
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1/5/2007  3:02 PM
^LOL

Thats hilarious Marv.
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1/5/2007  3:12 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by BRIGGS:

I'm highly appreciative that andrew adn martin made this site. I know once in a while people argue over this and that[of corse thats going to be the case]but almost everyone who posts here seem like cool people--thats's one of the reasons the site is so good.

Ain't the truth Briggs.

Every now and then it's good to give Martin and Andrew their props for what they've done with this site. In honor of their work, I think they should buy us all a beer at the game on Jan.19


"hey andrew, i think they like us."
"that's right martin, you handsome bastard. they really really like us."

ok then, see if I ever buy you a fruity drink again!

So much for that invite to the Knicks City Dancers get-together with Ultimate for Marv.
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1/5/2007  4:42 PM
Those pics are out of control.
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