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bigbeast
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1/3/2007  1:55 PM
"I'm getting similar minutes either way, so I can't complain too much," Lee said.

The idea that Lee is being misused is going a bit too far.

Last yr he recieved about 13DNP's. He's averaging 30 mins per game. He played 36 minutes last night which is more than average for a starter. Okay, so if Isiah started Lee, he may get 3-4 more minutes than his seasons average. Big deal. He's usually there when it counts at the end. You guys are making mountains out of mole hills with this Lee situation.











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1/3/2007  1:57 PM
I could care less if he's getting the same minutes because this team is down early every single game because of the starting lineup. I believe if Lee were starting that wouldn't be the case.
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1/3/2007  1:58 PM
david's a good soldier.

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1/3/2007  2:00 PM
Dlee wants to start. He is just being a good teammate.
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1/3/2007  2:00 PM
I agree that some posters' blind hate for all things IT has skewed the Lee issue. IT paid alot for Jeffries and he is going to find out if Jeffries can work out before making any changes. In IT's mind, Frye compliments Curry because of his outside shooting and Jeffries is a better on the ball and help defender than Lee, so IT would rather Lee come off the bench. As long as Lee gets 30+ minutes a game, I don't see it as that big of a deal. I am far more concerned with our inability to capitalize on teams double-teaming Curry. That is our biggest problem right now.
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1/3/2007  2:02 PM
clearly an ego trip, isiah went out and acquired jeffries given up on ariza, he's given jefferies the starting in hope to redeem himself and make the acquisition look good.
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1/3/2007  2:03 PM
Posted by TheGame:

I agree that some posters' blind hate for all things IT has skewed the Lee issue. IT paid alot for Jeffries and he is going to find out if Jeffries can work out before making any changes. In IT's mind, Frye compliments Curry because of his outside shooting and Jeffries is a better on the ball and help defender than Lee, so IT would rather Lee come off the bench. As long as Lee gets 30+ minutes a game, I don't see it as that big of a deal. I am far more concerned with our inability to capitalize on teams double-teaming Curry. That is our biggest problem right now.

I don't think it has anything to do with Isiah at all, alot of posters like to make that blanket claim on anything and everything that is said badly about this team. To me, there wouldn't be a problem with Lee not starting if this team wasn't getting down early every single game. I feel having Lee in the starting lineup would be a good way to try and stop this team being down early every single game.
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1/3/2007  2:08 PM
doesn't matter how well he's taking it... the fact of the matter is that D Lee deserves to be starting... it can't feel good to see guys who have been clearly inferior players all year long getting their names announced for starting lineups while you're relegated to coming off the bench, regardless of the amount of time he's playing... athletes have egos that like to be stroked... everyone of us wants to be recognized for a job well done... how good would it feel to see guys who were clearly undeserving of promotions getting them before you, while you've been busting your butt all year long trying to get that promotion? it can't feel good.
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1/3/2007  2:12 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

"I'm getting similar minutes either way, so I can't complain too much," Lee said.

Of course he can't complain. It's against team policy.
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1/3/2007  2:26 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

I could care less if he's getting the same minutes because this team is down early every single game because of the starting lineup. I believe if Lee were starting that wouldn't be the case.

Lee started against Philly and we got blown out. Lee didn't start against the Pistons in what was our best game all yr. I don't think Lee's absence from the first five minutes of the game determines wins and/or losses. Our defense or lack there of and our inconsistant backcourt is what usually gets us into a hole early.

If Lee starts as everyone seems to be bellyaching about, its Frye, not Jeffries who should go to the bench. I agree that Jeffries is killing us on the offensive end, but Lee is still having a heck of a time trying to stay with Sf's on the D.
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1/3/2007  2:34 PM
Posted by bigbeast:

Lee started against Philly and we got blown out. Lee didn't start against the Pistons in what was our best game all yr. I don't think Lee's absence from the first five minutes of the game determines wins and/or losses. Our defense or lack there of and our inconsistant backcourt is what usually gets us into a hole early.

So we're going to take 1 game where we got blown out with Lee starting as the constant? That makes absolutely no sense.
I agree that Jeffries is killing us on the offensive end, but Lee is still having a heck of a time trying to stay with Sf's on the D.

Lee is not a SF and he should not be playing the position because of the fact that he's not fast enough to keep up with other SF's. David Lee is a Power Forward and he's the best Power Forward on this team, he should be starting.
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1/3/2007  2:36 PM
I dont think its Isiahs ego that has Jeffries and Marbury start every game they play. I think he just honestly believes they are better. I dont think he sees the same things we see.
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1/3/2007  2:47 PM
6-6 when Lee Starts and 7-15 when he doesnt start. Last year he was about .500 when he started. Is that pure coincidence or is the Knick closer to a .500 team when he is in the lineup?
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1/3/2007  3:07 PM
Posted by King1:

6-6 when Lee Starts and 7-15 when he doesnt start. Last year he was about .500 when he started. Is that pure coincidence or is the Knick closer to a .500 team when he is in the lineup?


David Lee is good, but I don't think he is the difference between 500 and 318 winning percentage.
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1/3/2007  3:27 PM
Posted by mintyfreshness33:

clearly an ego trip, isiah went out and acquired jeffries given up on ariza, he's given jefferies the starting in hope to redeem himself and make the acquisition look good.

Get facts straight and JJ hasn't even played 10 games yet.
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1/3/2007  3:32 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by King1:

6-6 when Lee Starts and 7-15 when he doesnt start. Last year he was about .500 when he started. Is that pure coincidence or is the Knick closer to a .500 team when he is in the lineup?


David Lee is good, but I don't think he is the difference between 500 and 318 winning percentage.

I do
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1/3/2007  3:55 PM
not saying he is either but the 25 games he has started is the only sample we have. The other sample is when Frye starts the number go down drastically.
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1/3/2007  5:21 PM
WHY are there so many DLEE threads today?

OVER-RATED!!!!

It hurts to say, but you guys are going way overboard. I like David Lee, and it hurts to call him overrated, but thats whay is happening in Knick land these days.

Check yourselves Knick fans! DLee is good, not great. He might look great because we're so starved for a PF we can root for (we've had to deal with earthbound dinosaurs at the position for so long).
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1/3/2007  5:25 PM
Lee is solid the guys that are over rated is the Frey and Jeffires of the world. Put up numbers, Frye has done nothing this year to deserve to start. He plays like a European and he shoots the ball nothing else. JJ got a starting position given to him for doing nothing for the Knicks and for that matter in the league. Lee is one of 10 players in the league averaging a double-double he is a solid player and will get better. Crawford, Frye and JJ are overrated
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1/3/2007  5:47 PM
I don't buy the theory that Isiah is starting Jeffries & Frye to get them going. Isiah is doing everything he can to not look stupid for putting so much stock into those 2 guys because he could careless about NY and its fans he only cares about his ego. If he is than he already has a deal in place with Dolan for an extension. If his job was truly on the line he would be playing his best players.

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 01-03-2007 5:50 PM]
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