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1/1/2007  5:01 PM
I mean the rotation of Curry, Frye, Lee, Crawford, Marbury, Cato, Balkman worked. We need to stick to that lineup and see them together for a long period of time. For all we know that lineup could be a 40 win lineup. Isiah is making it hard to judge the team now, just like Brown did it last yr. Though for different reasons. Why won't he stick to what was working?
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1/1/2007  5:07 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Why won't he stick to what was working?

it's b/c isiah isn't a good coach. maybe a good motivator and "friend" but so far, not that good an in-game coach.
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1/1/2007  5:12 PM
Hard to not fiddle around with this team because the Knicks are still a bad team. Bad team, bad coaching/gming = our suckiness.
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1/1/2007  5:17 PM
Why would you fiddle if you just finished playing 3 of the best games of the season vs Utah, Chi. & Detroit. There is no reason to fiddle. They showed chemistry, heart & passion. The same lineup that is losing now, isn't the same lineups that was winning before.

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1/1/2007  5:18 PM
Isiah is a good motivator but he is horrible at in game matchup adjustments
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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1/1/2007  5:32 PM
Theres a reason that the Pacers lost in the 1st round three straight years while Isiah was the coach there; coaching. In the playoffs opposing coaches are great at adjusting what they have and what they need to do, this is a huge flaw of Isiah's and I would say one of the biggest reasons the Pacers lost in the 1st round those three straight years.
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1/1/2007  6:08 PM
THat might be the reason year the last year, the pacers weren't suppose to win the first two years.

I think Isiah is too worried about getting certine players to play instead of playing the best players. It's he tries to play the players he wants to play from a GM point of veiw, instead of a coaching point of veiw. Plus, the teams "super star" has more of Clark Kent then Surperman on the court.(Marbury)
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1/1/2007  6:31 PM
its true.. how are we supposed to tell what we have when it keeps changing all the time. oh .. ****... i could have sworn we were still in 2006
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Posted by Elite:

its true.. how are we supposed to tell what we have when it keeps changing all the time. oh .. ****... i could have sworn we were still in 2006

The only piece he changed in the line up was Lee. BTW, Jeffries was the starter in perhaps our biggest win of the yr against the pistons. Lee is still getting 30 mins per. We need help on the wing, sure, but the answer to that problem isn't on this roster right now.

To compare the minor tweaking of the starting lineup (which was only tweaked due to injury and or suspensions) to last yr is a bit far fetched.

You guys are overlooking the fact that the losses we have suffered have been on the road. Clippers, Suns etc. Lee started when we played the worse team in the east in Philly and we got blitzed. Lee comes off the bench against the best team in the east, Detroit, and we win. Starting Lee at the 3 spot will not cure our ills.
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1/1/2007  6:58 PM
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by Elite:

its true.. how are we supposed to tell what we have when it keeps changing all the time. oh .. ****... i could have sworn we were still in 2006

The only piece he changed in the line up was Lee. BTW, Jeffries was the starter in perhaps our biggest win of the yr against the pistons. Lee is still getting 30 mins per. We need help on the wing, sure, but the answer to that problem isn't on this roster right now.

To compare the minor tweaking of the starting lineup (which was only tweaked due to injury and or suspensions) to last yr is a bit far fetched.

You guys are overlooking the fact that the losses we have suffered have been on the road. Clippers, Suns etc. Lee started when we played the worse team in the east in Philly and we got blitzed. Lee comes off the bench against the best team in the east, Detroit, and we win. Starting Lee at the 3 spot will not cure our ills.

Its one thing to lose on the road, its another thing to be completely outclassed and not compete. And Lee gets 8 minutes in the first half? Malik is getting his minutes now...HUH!?!?! And how can the knicks not adjust to a simple defensive scheme that almost every team uses? Since when did doubling the post become this unstoppable defense?

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1/1/2007  7:09 PM
Posted by izybx:
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by Elite:

its true.. how are we supposed to tell what we have when it keeps changing all the time. oh .. ****... i could have sworn we were still in 2006

The only piece he changed in the line up was Lee. BTW, Jeffries was the starter in perhaps our biggest win of the yr against the pistons. Lee is still getting 30 mins per. We need help on the wing, sure, but the answer to that problem isn't on this roster right now.

To compare the minor tweaking of the starting lineup (which was only tweaked due to injury and or suspensions) to last yr is a bit far fetched.

You guys are overlooking the fact that the losses we have suffered have been on the road. Clippers, Suns etc. Lee started when we played the worse team in the east in Philly and we got blitzed. Lee comes off the bench against the best team in the east, Detroit, and we win. Starting Lee at the 3 spot will not cure our ills.

Its one thing to lose on the road, its another thing to be completely outclassed and not compete. And Lee gets 8 minutes in the first half? Malik is getting his minutes now...HUH!?!?! And how can the knicks not adjust to a simple defensive scheme that almost every team uses? Since when did doubling the post become this unstoppable defense?

Not doubling the post but doubling Eddy in the post. Big man with small brain...






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1/1/2007  7:13 PM
Posted by izybx:
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by Elite:

its true.. how are we supposed to tell what we have when it keeps changing all the time. oh .. ****... i could have sworn we were still in 2006

The only piece he changed in the line up was Lee. BTW, Jeffries was the starter in perhaps our biggest win of the yr against the pistons. Lee is still getting 30 mins per. We need help on the wing, sure, but the answer to that problem isn't on this roster right now.

To compare the minor tweaking of the starting lineup (which was only tweaked due to injury and or suspensions) to last yr is a bit far fetched.

You guys are overlooking the fact that the losses we have suffered have been on the road. Clippers, Suns etc. Lee started when we played the worse team in the east in Philly and we got blitzed. Lee comes off the bench against the best team in the east, Detroit, and we win. Starting Lee at the 3 spot will not cure our ills.

Its one thing to lose on the road, its another thing to be completely outclassed and not compete. And Lee gets 8 minutes in the first half? Malik is getting his minutes now...HUH!?!?! And how can the knicks not adjust to a simple defensive scheme that almost every team uses? Since when did doubling the post become this unstoppable defense?

I don't disagree with you on that one particular game. Lee should have gotten more minutes than 8 in the first half although, I understand why Malik was in (BRand was torching our front line).

But this goes beyond just one game against the Clips. I get the impression that some people believe that pulling Lee out of the starting lineup has caused this downward spiral. I'm not so sure that is the case. Again, we beat the Pistons with Lee comming off the bench (at home). Yes we got outclassed by the Suns and Clips, but we also got outclassed by one of the worse teams in the league in Philly (with Lee starting).

It wont bother me one way or the other if Lee starts at the 3 (eventhough we will be killed on the defensive end by wing players) Just as long as Isiah can find at least 30 min per for him. The bottom line is neither Lee or the offensively challenged Jeffries is the answer to our Sf position woes. Lee is a 4 and Jeffries is a role player off the bench.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 01-01-2007 7:15 PM]
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1/1/2007  7:32 PM
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Why would you fiddle if you just finished playing 3 of the best games of the season vs Utah, Chi. & Detroit. There is no reason to fiddle. They showed chemistry, heart & passion. The same lineup that is losing now, isn't the same lineups that was winning before.


It's so ironic. The Great Fiddler, who gave us 42 starting lineups, stuck as long as he could with his lineup when they won (until Marbury got hurt and AD suspended), while Mr Static starting lineup wont stay with what works because he promised stability.
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1/1/2007  9:43 PM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Why won't he stick to what was working?

it's b/c isiah isn't a good coach. maybe a good motivator and "friend" but so far, not that good an in-game coach.

What happen to the motion offense, UCLA cut- Indiana backdoor etc...what we are seeing is a clueless coach who's very desperate, eventually he to will be gone and the knicks will start from scratch once more.

Who's crazy enough to take the job after Isiah ??

This is why dolan let him ride it out....no takers

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1/1/2007  10:43 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Why won't he stick to what was working?

it's b/c isiah isn't a good coach. maybe a good motivator and "friend" but so far, not that good an in-game coach.

What happen to the motion offense, UCLA cut- Indiana backdoor etc...what we are seeing is a clueless coach who's very desperate, eventually he to will be gone and the knicks will start from scratch once more.

Who's crazy enough to take the job after Isiah ??

This is why dolan let him ride it out....no takers

You are mistaken - for good money any donkey will take it...
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1/1/2007  11:39 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by newyorknewyork:

Why would you fiddle if you just finished playing 3 of the best games of the season vs Utah, Chi. & Detroit. There is no reason to fiddle. They showed chemistry, heart & passion. The same lineup that is losing now, isn't the same lineups that was winning before.


It's so ironic. The Great Fiddler, who gave us 42 starting lineups, stuck as long as he could with his lineup when they won (until Marbury got hurt and AD suspended), while Mr Static starting lineup wont stay with what works because he promised stability.

And if im going to bash Brown for it. Then I should bash Isiah for doing the same thing as well.
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1/2/2007  5:52 PM
To Isiah's defense nobody on the team came to play against the Clips. How was he supposed to stick with players if they were all flat?
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1/2/2007  5:59 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

To Isiah's defense nobody on the team came to play against the Clips. How was he supposed to stick with players if they were all flat?



True, he needs a GM who's willing to get him his kind of players.
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