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The Hypocrisy of the media (when punches are thrown)
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playa2
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12/22/2006  7:42 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=261221027

Nashville Predators and Buffalo Sabres play in a blowout game last night.

The media is not making this front page news anywhere.

Listen how the announcer on espn describes the altercation.

Listen how uses his words carefully to make it sound as if it's not as bad.


Media bias in sports with is on a all-time high.
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12/22/2006  10:37 AM
clearly the announcer is a racist.
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12/22/2006  11:12 AM
Well when an NHL game is watched by more than 100 people nationwide, maybe it'll become more of a incident, until then no one cares about what happens in the NHL.
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12/22/2006  11:23 AM
The Stanley Cup will get less coverage than the fight. No one cares about the NHL.
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12/22/2006  12:13 PM
Posted by Bippity10:

The Stanley Cup will get less coverage than the fight. No one cares about the NHL.

NHL? What's with you and the acronyms, man? Does that stand for "Nobody Hates Legos"? Or is it "Nummy Half-Lamb"?

Maybe it's "No Hats 'Llowed"?
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12/22/2006  12:19 PM
NHL stands for "Solace is an arse"
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12/22/2006  1:13 PM

The Detroit Red Wings hire Emanuel Steward(Boxing's best trainer, Head of Kronx Gym in Detroit, HBO commentator) to train it's goons to fight...
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12/22/2006  1:24 PM
are there fans on the ice in hokey? Do kids and woman sit in folding chair on the rink? Are people at risk when hockey goons fight?

Most NBA fights dont happen at midcourt, they happen on the sideline or under the baskets where fans are sitting.

Baseball, football, hockey... none of them really apply. Why dont people think the media coverage and tougher penalties are because when NBA players brawl it puts the league and fans in tremendous risk??? Everyone ignores that
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12/22/2006  1:30 PM
perhaps they should put up plexi-glass behind both baskets to keep the fans out of harm's way when these rough & tough basketball players get it on? just throwing it out there.
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12/22/2006  1:36 PM
Posted by TMS:

perhaps they should put up plexi-glass behind both baskets to keep the fans out of harm's way when these rough & tough basketball players get it on? just throwing it out there.


Instead of fines and suspensions?

because the view is more important than the fight.

why isn't hockey more popular if fighting is so seductive?

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12/22/2006  1:37 PM
Posted by fishmike:

are there fans on the ice in hokey? Do kids and woman sit in folding chair on the rink? Are people at risk when hockey goons fight?

Most NBA fights dont happen at midcourt, they happen on the sideline or under the baskets where fans are sitting.

Baseball, football, hockey... none of them really apply. Why dont people think the media coverage and tougher penalties are because when NBA players brawl it puts the league and fans in tremendous risk??? Everyone ignores that

When Kermit Washington hit rudy tomjanovich in his grill and broke his face, no fans were injured and the altercation took place around mid court yet Kermit was suspended for so long it was unheard of back then.

They made Kermit feel so horrible in the media that it changed his entire life.

I watched a special on NBA-TV a week or two ago with he and his ex-wife talking about all the troubles they recieved had after the incident.

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12/22/2006  1:42 PM
In hockey you got white people hitting white people.
Black men throwing punches is a touchy thing.
Rudy T -white, Kermit Washington-black.
All adds up.

[Edited by - kam77 on 12-22-2006 1:43 PM]
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/22/2006  1:43 PM
there are black players in the NHL now bro... it's all public perception, but that doesn't always match w/reality.
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12/22/2006  1:48 PM
Posted by playa2:
Posted by fishmike:

are there fans on the ice in hokey? Do kids and woman sit in folding chair on the rink? Are people at risk when hockey goons fight?

Most NBA fights dont happen at midcourt, they happen on the sideline or under the baskets where fans are sitting.

Baseball, football, hockey... none of them really apply. Why dont people think the media coverage and tougher penalties are because when NBA players brawl it puts the league and fans in tremendous risk??? Everyone ignores that

When Kermit Washington hit rudy tomjanovich in his grill and broke his face, no fans were injured and the altercation took place around mid court yet Kermit was suspended for so long it was unheard of back then.

They made Kermit feel so horrible in the media that it changed his entire life.

I watched a special on NBA-TV a week or two ago with he and his ex-wife talking about all the troubles they recieved had after the incident.
again.. thats a unique situtation that has little to do with the issue. That punch ruined a guys career and almost killed him. How many surguries did Rudy need to fix that? That was a case of the punishment fitting the crime.

And there have been instances in recent years in hockey where guys have been suspended for a year and been all over the news. I dont follow the sport closely enough but its happened.

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12/22/2006  1:48 PM
The reality is that was just a hard foul by Mardy, IF n8 doesn't come in all mini-HULK and if Carmelo doesn't choke him, none of this other isht would have happened.

The media - to pile on Isiah even more, ran with it and blew it up. The media could focus on hockey or basebrawls more but they don't. Its just boys bein boys in those sports. Nobody thinks baseball has a violence problem but they think that about the NBA because the media took two incidents in two years and made it a big issue. THERE WAS A BASEBALL player last year i believe who got into it with fans in the stands. Media didn't make a big deal out of that, even though the guy (i think on the dodgers) was black.
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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12/22/2006  2:19 PM
It all sounds like sour whiney grapes to me. When the kids applauded Nate for fighting at that little event he did, just goes to show why it's good that DStern came down hard. Too bad it couldn't have been a bunch of white guys fighting so that we can focus on the issue instead of the color of the players.
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12/22/2006  3:11 PM
Maybe the NBA needs Bill Lambier back.

TMS, the reason the NHL has plexi glass is to protect the fans from the pucks being shot at 120 MPH and well as players being checked into the boards. I'm surprised basketball doesn't do something similar, like put nets up around the entire box seats area, b/c I'm sure people get injured left and right from foul balls and broken bats.


Basketball doesn't have checks or pucks flying at them at 120 mph. It is the players responsibilities to control themselves and realize that they are professionals. Also, diving for loose balls in the NBA is part of the game, and putting plexi glass, even behind the baskets takes away that important part of the game. The fans and media must realize that they are at risk from guys diving into the stands, if they are gonna sit just a row or 2 or 3 away from the court. Same thing as the fans knowing that they are at risk of getting hurt from a shot baseball, or a puck actually breaking through the plexi glass (Which has killed people.)
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12/22/2006  3:42 PM
Posted by playa2:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=261221027

Nashville Predators and Buffalo Sabres play in a blowout game last night.

The media is not making this front page news anywhere.

Listen how the announcer on espn describes the altercation.

Listen how uses his words carefully to make it sound as if it's not as bad.


Media bias in sports with is on a all-time high.

I wouldnt say media bias is at an all time high, but there is still that undercurrent. Just look how exaggerated the differences are between the reactions to the two fights. Why did that NBA fight, which was relatively tame in nature, become a national obsession? I love all the creative justification I am hearing.
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12/22/2006  3:57 PM
Posted by TMS:

perhaps they should put up plexi-glass behind both baskets to keep the fans out of harm's way when these rough & tough basketball players get it on? just throwing it out there.


Professional basketball used to be played inside a chain link cage I believe which is why basketball players were coined as cagers. This was used to seperate the players from the audience.
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12/22/2006  4:19 PM
I don't get the impression that the cage ever saw widespread use.


On Nov. 7, 1896, the Trenton YMCA team became the first basketball players to go out on their own and turn professional.

Clad in distinctive uniforms — red, sleeveless shirts, black padded knickers, wool stockings and high-top gym shoes — the Trentons won their first game against the Brooklyn Y, 16-1.

The downtown Masonic Temple hosted the historic event by converting its third-floor banquet hall into a home court. By this time, the peach baskets used by Naismith's first basketballers had given way to portable hoops with cloth netting. But the balls themselves were lumpy, leathery, pumpkin-sized spheres. And the nets had no hole at the bottom — so after every score, an official had to poke the ball out of the net with a long pole.

The court was also ringed by something new to basketball — a 12-foot, chain-link "cage" separating players from fans.

"The Trentons had conceived the idea that a cage would make the game faster by stopping all out-of-bounds delays," wrote Marvin Riley, the referee at that historic game. "That cage was an object of both interest and sarcasm for a long time. It was called 'Trenton's monkey cage.'"


By the 1920s, the cage had been phased out of the game. Still, headline writers fell in love with the word as a synonym for basketball, and players are sometimes still called "cagers."

http://www.capitalcentury.com/1900.html





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