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Good article about Nate in the NY Times
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Ira
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12/20/2006  5:50 AM
I haven't seen this posted here yet. If it has been, it's ok to delete. Basically, Nate seems to have taken this matter very seriously and promises to do better in the future.

Here's the links - http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/20/sports/basketball/20nate.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

And here's the text:

December 20, 2006
A Chagrined Robinson Promises He’ll Change
By HOWARD BECK


GREENBURGH, N.Y., Dec. 19 — In 18 months in the N.B.A., Nate Robinson has been a showboat, a slam-dunk champion, a crowd-pleaser, a clutch shooter, a curiosity and an occasional nuisance.

By late Saturday night, he had earned another identity. The polite term would be provocateur. The word used most often on talk radio has been punk.

Robinson, a second-year guard for the Knicks, earned the label — whatever it is — when he puffed out his chest, pumped his arms and challenged Denver’s J. R. Smith, helping incite a melee Saturday at Madison Square Garden.

Robinson did not appear to land any punches. But he and Smith wrestled and tumbled into the first row of seats along the baseline, potentially endangering fans. Robinson was also among the players cited by the N.B.A. commissioner for escalating tensions throughout the incident.

After the game, Robinson was as verbally obstinate as he had been physically brash. By Tuesday, having begun a 10-game suspension, he vowed to work toward “becoming a better person.”

He described the out-of-control Robinson that appears in the game film as someone else, a dangerous alter ego akin to the Incredible Hulk. “I know pretty much not to let that other guy come out no more,” he said. “It’s done, it’s a wrap.”

Had he not reached this conclusion on his own, the 22-year-old Robinson would have had ample assistance. He heard from several family members after the fight, including his father, Jacque, a former N.F.L. running back, and his grandmother.

“She just says learn from it, because I’m not that type of person to go out and act the way I did,” he said. “My mom, my dad, they raised me better than that. I’m definitely sorry for how I acted.”

Robinson apologized to the Knicks, the league, the Nuggets, the fans and “all the kids, because that’s not who Nate Robinson is.”

Yet the display of overdeveloped bravado was not at all surprising to teammates or to coaches. Packed into Robinson’s small frame (listed at 5 feet 9 inches, he is closer to 5-7) is an outsized personality that ranges from humorous to irritating. Robinson talks loudly, plays practical jokes on teammates and generally forces himself into conversations.

The constant yapping and braying can become an annoyance. In separate incidents last season, Robinson tussled with Jerome James and Malik Rose. James stands 7-1 and 300 pounds. But then, Robinson has never let his size hold him back.

In high school, he was a star running back and cornerback. At the University of Washington, he gave up a chance to play football to focus on basketball. He is nearly always the smallest person in the room, and he tends to overcompensate with a large swagger.

“He’s had a chip on his shoulder ever since he was smaller,” said Jamal Crawford, Robinson’s teammate in high school and with the Knicks. “It’s not towards anybody, he just wants to be better than everybody.”

The competitiveness extends to all areas, Crawford said. “We can play pool, and if you beat him, he won’t let you leave until he ends up beating you more than you beat him.”

Yet Crawford, like other teammates, defends Robinson like a brother — albeit the bratty kid brother who is always getting into your stuff.

Crawford added: “Nate’s a great kid. He’s very emotional, he’s all about his teammates.”

Emotional is a frequent description for Robinson. Immature is another. On the court, he often opts for entertainment value over fundamentals, a habit that made Larry Brown, the previous Knicks coach, chafe.

In February, Robinson won the slam-dunk competition during All-Star weekend — but only after stubbornly taking 14 attempts to complete his final dunk. He passed to himself off the backboard.

Last month in Cleveland, Robinson stunned teammates when he tried a similar circus move during a real game. Robinson was on a breakaway and could have scored an uncontested layup. Instead, he tried a bounce pass to himself for a dunk and was called for traveling.

“He’s just a very hyper kid,” the Knicks veteran Steve Francis said Monday. “Hopefully, as he gets older and he gets mature in this league, he’ll learn how to be not only a good player but also a good person and be professional about it.”

Teammates generally defended Robinson’s actions Saturday, saying that he was looking out for his teammate Mardy Collins, whose flagrant foul on Smith started the fracas. Smith jumped to his feet and went jaw to jaw with Collins. For a moment, things were tense but not violent.

“That’s where it’s going to stop in the future,” Commissioner David Stern said Monday.

But then Robinson went after Smith and chaos ensued, which is why Stern dealt Robinson such a lengthy suspension.

Coach Isiah Thomas predicted that the suspension would “have a positive impact” on Robinson, “because someone like him, who has had to go through so much adversity and being so small, to get to this level, he’s definitely capable of adapting and changing.”

The incident seemed to have no effect on Robinson’s popularity when he sponsored a holiday party for 200 children at the Boys and Girls Club of Northern Westchester in Tarrytown on Tuesday night.

The children roared when Robinson entered the gym and quickly surrounded him. He began to offer an apology but was nearly drowned out by cheers as soon as he mentioned “the big fight.”

“Fighting is not cool,” Robinson told the crowd, before posing for photographs with the kids. “I want you guys to know it’s not cool.”

Robinson is averaging 9.9 points in 20.5 minutes a game. The Knicks will miss his speed and his energy and maybe even his braggadocio. Robinson will miss his one chance to play in his hometown, Seattle; the Knicks are there Jan. 5, in what will be the final game of his sentence.

“That’s kind of tough for me,” Robinson said.

As for the indelible impression of him as a punk, an impression reinforced with every television replay, Robinson said he paid it no mind.

“That’s not who I am,” he said. “That’s not the person I’m trying to influence kids to go out and be, because me, I’m fun, I’m happy all the time, I’m smiling. I work hard, I play hard and I’m just protecting my family.”

Michael S. Schmidt contributed reporting.

Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company
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12/20/2006  6:12 AM
I don't know what's wrong with people's eyes. Nate's first reaction was to hold back Smith who appeared to be charging Collins. Nothing wrong with that. After that he was completely wrong, but his first instinct was to keep a guy from going after his teammate by trying to restrain him.

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12/20/2006  7:01 AM
he broke it up, melo came charging in and quickly push grabbed nate by the NECK he pushed melo's arm away and then got tackled.

rewatch with unbiased eyes.

only after melo grabbed his neck did he even puff his chest.
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12/20/2006  7:37 AM
I could careless about Nate's antics. I just don't like him as a player. especially on this team with 9 other 6ft SGs. He can be a good spark off the bench for some other team
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12/20/2006  8:56 AM
“He’s had a chip on his shoulder ever since he was smaller,” said Jamal Crawford

Every once in a while this team says funny things,
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12/20/2006  8:58 AM
Posted by Nalod:
“He’s had a chip on his shoulder ever since he was smaller,” said Jamal Crawford

Every once in a while this team says funny things,

Speaking of which, here's a video of Nate: http://gprime.net/video.php/thenextjordan
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12/20/2006  9:15 AM
Posted by Nalod:
“He’s had a chip on his shoulder ever since he was smaller,” said Jamal Crawford

Every once in a while this team says funny things,

Yeah, I said the same thing......."since he was"?? LOL

[Edited by - joec32033 on 12-20-2006 09:15 AM]
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12/20/2006  12:50 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

he broke it up, melo came charging in and quickly push grabbed nate by the NECK he pushed melo's arm away and then got tackled.

rewatch with unbiased eyes.

only after melo grabbed his neck did he even puff his chest.


that's what you call an unbiased account of what happened? lol.

come on man, JR got up quick after the foul & went chest to chest w/Mardy... in that moment it didn't look like anything would happen other than those guys just going face to face & an exchange of words... Jefferies was there trying to keep them apart but neither of them were making any moves to punch or grab at the other... then Nate came running in & pushed JR off Mardy... JR made a move to push Nate back, & then Nate went into 49 cent mode w/his fists raised as if challenging JR to a fight... Melo tried to grab Nate & Nate pushed his arm away... that's when JR rushed at Nate & they went tumbling into the stands.

[Edited by - TMS on 12-20-2006 12:51 PM]
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12/20/2006  2:07 PM
Nates inner honkey was talking. Nate heard voices.



[Edited by - nalod on 12-20-2006 2:08 PM]
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12/20/2006  2:08 PM
honkey? did somebody say honkey?

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12/20/2006  3:38 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by Nalod:
“He’s had a chip on his shoulder ever since he was smaller,” said Jamal Crawford

Every once in a while this team says funny things,

Speaking of which, here's a video of Nate: http://gprime.net/video.php/thenextjordan
that kid has horrible form.
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12/20/2006  4:07 PM
LOL Is Nate referring to himself in the third person as the Incredible Hulk?


Nate Banner....... watch out don't piss him off his jersey will start to rip and tear to shreds.


Who would win as a Super Hero Match...... Starbury or Nate Banner?




[Edited by - TrueBlue on 12-20-2006 3:49 PM]
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12/20/2006  4:20 PM
Posted by babyKnicks:

he broke it up, melo came charging in and quickly push grabbed nate by the NECK he pushed melo's arm away and then got tackled.

rewatch with unbiased eyes.

only after melo grabbed his neck did he even puff his chest.

Unfortunately this is not true. I'm wathcing right now...

What happens is. Nate pulls JR off colins rather agressively. Then Lee grabs a hold of him. THEN Nate PUSHES JR again while hes being held by Lee. At this point JR seems to yell something at Nate and give a slight dash in his direction. Now nate throws up his fists. THEN Carmelo puts his hand on Nate WHILE hes throwing a little jab at JR... then he swipes melos hand away, and JR tackles him.

So really... Nate escilated this whole thing not once, not twice.. but three times with:

1. the extra push,
2. throwing his fists up
3. throwing the jab at JR.

I love nate, and i stand behind him.. But he really escilated this whole thing first.
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12/20/2006  4:24 PM
Another interesting point about the fight i noticed while analyzing it just now.

Camby really diddnt want Melo to run away... He held him that first time, but then when jeffries fell and got up - Camby could have grabbed jeffries and held him back he was right next to him, but he diddnt.. it really looked like he wanted him to catch melo lol
Good article about Nate in the NY Times

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