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MS
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12/19/2006  9:36 AM
I am not sure why no one sees this but last night was a perfect example of why Crawford has no place on this team, I hear all this bull**** about Marbury, but the fact remains Crawford is the most selfish, useless player on this team......

He uses up close to 12 seconds every possession dicking around with the ball and then takes an off balance shot, or hands the ball to someone with 4 on the clock creating awful possessions. And when he doesn't use the clock he is firing with 18 on the clock.

He never plays in the flow of the game or the offense, and Isiah never takes him out or talks to him after he makes an awful decision, ala his forced shot in the overtime.......

No player has further digressed under Isiah than Crawford, his green light privledges need to be revoked now, its not just one game, and please don't tell me him and Curry work well together, or he is a clutch shooter....He loses more games for us than he wins.....

He should get spot duty only when Q returns........
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12/19/2006  9:38 AM
I agree...the 3 he chucked up with 10 seconds remaining on the shot could have spelled doom for the Knicks.
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12/19/2006  9:44 AM
Yeah, where Larry needs to get credit is the job he did with Crawford, who unfortunetly digressed to a complete ball hog of a bum.
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12/19/2006  9:45 AM

I couldn't agree more..The guy is totally out of control...For now he is a necessary evil...He is the only guy that can get a good look at the basket when you need one...But the Knicks hasn't been in those close games where he has been needed...He has definitely been doing more harm than good lately...He really needs to be corralled...
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12/19/2006  9:49 AM
Disgraceful the shot he got to win the game, a pull up three? Drive the ****ing ball you bonehead, in all honesty i wouldn't even mind seeing him not play much at all and have francis take his minutes off the bench, slide q over to the 2 guard that way balkman gets minutes at the three behind jefferies........

Going to be a good team late in games with the following unit

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12/19/2006  9:51 AM
The funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression is that he is playing as well or better than last year over the same period of time.

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12/19/2006  9:52 AM
For some reason Isiah loves the guy, but i think the first step in improving this team is moving crawford for an expiring deal or a draft pick, anyone that says this guy is part of the future is ****ing nuts

He does nothing to help this team outside of a few hot streaks, for every game he wins he loses five.....the ****ing guy doesn't know how to attack the zone or move the ball, some players never learn
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12/19/2006  9:52 AM
You could say the same criticism of Crawford stands for Nate too.
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12/19/2006  10:01 AM
Those two are awful together but at least nate can shoot a high percentage.....Crawford the last month of the season was shooting around 45% and getting to the line at a very high rate, and his assists where up, i didn't buy it then when everyone was elated and pronouncing him the future....

I am sure we can find a lot of players that turn it over 2.3 times a game shoot it at 38% and 28% from long range, can we just get rid of this ****ing guy for expiring contracts......
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12/19/2006  10:04 AM
I didn't see the game, but to me Crawford took 2 shots in the first quarter and 5 shots in the second Quarter. HE knew he was off, but the team wanted him to keep shooting because he was the second best threat last nite. They kept giving him the ball and told him to make aplay. SO why kill him for that??? He was completely off, but came up with 18 points in the last 19 minutes of the game. Which was 25% of the total points in the game by the whole team!!! How can you kill him for that???

I think the problem is not the shots, he should still take 26 shots during a game, it's that they were mostly jumpshots. IF he goes to the basket for most of those shots, he makes a couple and when he is fouled a couple of them don't even count as "shots taken". So instead of 6-26 for 18, he shoud have been 8 of 18 for 25 points.

I think you guys are being alittle too hard when he did find a way to score and hep win the game....
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12/19/2006  10:07 AM
Posted by oohah:

The funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression is that he is playing as well or better than last year over the same period of time.

oohah

I disagree. His game last year and this year are totally different. If you want to talk statistically, than maybe, but these are 2 different players.
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12/19/2006  10:08 AM
not really he was 6-26 thats terrible and take a terrible shot to win the game, a terrible shot that almost cost us the game, and he wastes every possession dribbling into a corner and than has to rush a fadeaway.....

Now that he is getting called for carrying the ball he is going to be more ineffective......he deserves to get killed he does this every game, even when he is on he is taking terrible shots that lead to fast break points......
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12/19/2006  10:10 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

The funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression is that he is playing as well or better than last year over the same period of time.

oohah

I disagree. His game last year and this year are totally different. If you want to talk statistically, than maybe, but these are 2 different players.

Over this same period last year, Crawford was statistically the same or worse but he was playing better? Please explain. I think you are remembering his customary hot streak, but that didn't take place until the end of the season. I don't call that "progress", I call it "hotness".

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12/19/2006  10:12 AM
Crawford is a moron and has shot us out of waaay too many games, his ill-advised shot often turn into two points for the opposing team. Multiply that by at least 10 times per game and you get 20 fast break points per game. That's just horrible, he shoots before the front court can get into position for a rebound. Very stupid, we really need to get rid rid of him

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12/19/2006  10:21 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

The funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression is that he is playing as well or better than last year over the same period of time.

oohah

I disagree. His game last year and this year are totally different. If you want to talk statistically, than maybe, but these are 2 different players.

Over this same period last year, Crawford was statistically the same or worse but he was playing better? Please explain. I think you are remembering his customary hot streak, but that didn't take place until the end of the season. I don't call that "progress", I call it "hotness".

oohah

his game was being moved from a 3-point chucker to a midrange guy who went to the basket more often. Here is a prime example: last year Jamal was shooting more FTs than 3pointers, this year, old Jamal back.
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12/19/2006  10:25 AM
funny but it's also usually Craw that's directly involved in spurring those big comebacks during games also... last night was an off night obviously, but i do seem to remember him getting a couple of big dunks & a couple 3's while the Knicks were making their run in the 4th quarter & OT... i'm sure none of you thought he was a chemistry killer when he was hitting those big shots to win the games vs. the Nuggets, Cavs, Rockets, etc. this season & last... Jamal's regressed this season back into the ball launcher he was in Chicago, i agree with that... he made alot better decisions w/the ball last season under LB... he just needs to get back to playing that style of ball... i think Jamal's made some big plays on defense as well this season, getting his hands into passing lanes, deflecting & blocking some shots, & chasing down some loose balls... he's not nearly as bad as MS continuously tries to make him out to be.
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12/19/2006  10:30 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

The funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression is that he is playing as well or better than last year over the same period of time.

oohah

I disagree. His game last year and this year are totally different. If you want to talk statistically, than maybe, but these are 2 different players.

Over this same period last year, Crawford was statistically the same or worse but he was playing better? Please explain. I think you are remembering his customary hot streak, but that didn't take place until the end of the season. I don't call that "progress", I call it "hotness".

oohah

his game was being moved from a 3-point chucker to a midrange guy who went to the basket more often. Here is a prime example: last year Jamal was shooting more FTs than 3pointers, this year, old Jamal back.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3407/gamelog;_ylt=AsQyqcjESLZEwHigDU850xakvLYF
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3407/gamelog;_ylt=AhzgyDUnjyeQLtrKzZ.A2USkvLYF?year=2005

Looking at his game logs, I don't see much difference in his free-throw attempts as compared to last year over the first 6 weeks of the season.

Having said that, and I went on the record many times about this last year, I approved of how LB used Crawford last year. JC needs tough love. He (His game.) is Bipolar. You just cannot love a whole team tough at once!

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12/19/2006  10:35 AM
Reigning in Jamal was one of the few things the Old Man did right last year. He also had him run the point for long stretches and run the offense. Maybe that's what we need to do (in addition to getting a reliable sniper at the 2).
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12/19/2006  10:37 AM
The guy has tremendous talent and length for the G position--but he is one of the most inconsistent players in the league. If Utah didnt go into a shell for 2.5 periods, Crawford's effeciency wouldve stood out much more. Last night proved you don't need FANCY offensive players to win games. If we had a player like rip, this would fit much better. Contrary to what Isiah has said, shot blocking is nOT over-rated. If you can contest the lane aggresively--you can stick in games. You do need some guys we can rely on for more offensive effeciency from the 1-2-3 positions.
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12/19/2006  10:46 AM
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:
Posted by martin:
Posted by oohah:

The funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression is that he is playing as well or better than last year over the same period of time.

oohah

I disagree. His game last year and this year are totally different. If you want to talk statistically, than maybe, but these are 2 different players.

Over this same period last year, Crawford was statistically the same or worse but he was playing better? Please explain. I think you are remembering his customary hot streak, but that didn't take place until the end of the season. I don't call that "progress", I call it "hotness".

oohah

his game was being moved from a 3-point chucker to a midrange guy who went to the basket more often. Here is a prime example: last year Jamal was shooting more FTs than 3pointers, this year, old Jamal back.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3407/gamelog;_ylt=AsQyqcjESLZEwHigDU850xakvLYF
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3407/gamelog;_ylt=AhzgyDUnjyeQLtrKzZ.A2USkvLYF?year=2005

Looking at his game logs, I don't see much difference in his free-throw attempts as compared to last year over the first 6 weeks of the season.

Having said that, and I went on the record many times about this last year, I approved of how LB used Crawford last year. JC needs tough love. He (His game.) is Bipolar. You just cannot love a whole team tough at once!

oohah

you are talking regression from end of 2005 to now, right? Otherwise you would be comparing the same players IMHO. Jamal is the SAME player is was during the first 6 weeks of each year, on that I would agree. But your first statement of "the funny thing about Crawford's supposed regression".... that regression is from end of 2005 to now. He has regressed, no doubt about it.
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