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What would you rather have from your starting center? Then post your Top 3 Choices from these selections
Games Scoring in The 20's
Games of 3 or More Steals
Games of 10 or More Rebounds
Games of 3 or More Blocks
Games of Positive Ast/TO Ratio
Games of 2 or More Assist
Games of 50% FG or Better
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Marv
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12/16/2006  3:17 PM
interesting poll.

1. 10 or more boards

2. 3 or more blocks

3. 20 or more points

4. fewer than 4 pre-game double cheeseburgers consumed.
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12/16/2006  3:20 PM
Posted by Marv:

interesting poll.

1. 10 or more boards

2. 3 or more blocks

3. 20 or more points

4. fewer than 4 pre-game double cheeseburgers consumed.

LOL!!

My choices are actually exactly the same as yours Marv
1. 10 or more rebounds
2. 3 or more blocks
3. 20 points or more scored.

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12/16/2006  3:28 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Marv:

interesting poll.

1. 10 or more boards

2. 3 or more blocks

3. 20 or more points

4. fewer than 4 pre-game double cheeseburgers consumed.

LOL!!

My choices are actually exactly the same as yours Marv
1. 10 or more rebounds
2. 3 or more blocks
3. 20 points or more scored.


I'm torn between the my # 3 selection. I want to choose 20+ points but I'm not quite sure if my center gave me 15-17pts every night and never scored 20 if I'd be disappointed.
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12/16/2006  3:31 PM
10+ rebounds
3 or more blocks
50% or better
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12/16/2006  3:33 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by Marv:

interesting poll.

1. 10 or more boards

2. 3 or more blocks

3. 20 or more points

4. fewer than 4 pre-game double cheeseburgers consumed.

LOL!!

My choices are actually exactly the same as yours Marv
1. 10 or more rebounds
2. 3 or more blocks
3. 20 points or more scored.


I'm torn between the my # 3 selection. I want to choose 20+ points but I'm not quite sure if my center gave me 15-17pts every night and never scored 20 if I'd be disappointed.

Yeah it's a good point. I was debating the 20points with the 3 steals but in the end I chose the 20 points; could have went either way though.
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12/16/2006  3:36 PM
20 pts
10 rebounds
2 assists

Shot blocking is one of the most over rated stats around. As long as you defend and you get a hand in a guys face as a deterent getting credit for a block is often irrelavant
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/16/2006  3:36 PM
It depends on the make up of the rest of the team, but:

1. 10 or more rebounds
2. 20 or more points
3. the ability to clog the middle against penetrators
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12/16/2006  3:38 PM
20pts/10rebs/2blks/2ast.

Last eight championships:

Duncan 20ppg in the post
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Duncan
guys who could stop Shaq and Duncan
Duncan
Shaq

[Edited by - crzymdups on 16-12-2006 3:41 PM]
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12/16/2006  3:40 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

20 pts
10 rebounds
2 assists

Shot blocking is one of the most over rated stats around. As long as you defend and you get a hand in a guys face as a deterent getting credit for a block is often irrelavant
I would go with this aswell. BUt Also Assists are like blocks in many ways in the credit aspect.... So aslong as a guy moves the ball, I don't care if the team scores on his pass or the next. I would take the 50% shooting or maybe 10 fouls per.


[Edited by - anji on 12-16-2006 3:41 PM]
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12/16/2006  3:42 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

20 pts
10 rebounds
2 assists

Shot blocking is one of the most over rated stats around. As long as you defend and you get a hand in a guys face as a deterent getting credit for a block is often irrelavant


You have to be kidding me about shotblocking being irrelevant. #1 shotblocking creates a serious intemidation factor, it makes offenses think 2 maybe even 3 times about taking the ball to the paint, #2 if a center gave 3blks or more rest assured 1 if not 2 of those blocks are leading to points on the other end, #3 it allows your perimeter defenders to be more agressive because they know they have a beast backing them up if they should happen to make a mistake.

I guess it depends on your personality as a fan. I appreciate defense from that position far more than offense.



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 12-16-2006 2:43 PM]
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12/16/2006  3:45 PM
Shot blocking stats are misleading. The more important component is how many shots are altered.
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12/16/2006  3:52 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

20 pts
10 rebounds
2 assists

Shot blocking is one of the most over rated stats around. As long as you defend and you get a hand in a guys face as a deterent getting credit for a block is often irrelavant


You have to be kidding me about shotblocking being irrelevant. #1 shotblocking creates a serious intemidation factor, it makes offenses think 2 maybe even 3 times about taking the ball to the paint, #2 if a center gave 3blks or more rest assured 1 if not 2 of those blocks are leading to points on the other end, #3 it allows your perimeter defenders to be more agressive because they know they have a beast backing them up if they should happen to make a mistake.

I guess it depends on your personality as a fan. I appreciate defense from that position far more than offense.



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 12-16-2006 2:43 PM]


The Spurs better dump their team then because they are 22nd in the NBA in shot blocking with only 1 a game more than us :)
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/16/2006  3:55 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:


The Spurs better dump their team then because they are 22nd in the NBA in shot blocking with only 1 a game more than us :)

Well when you have guys who play as good Man-Man defense as the Spurs do, there aren't going to be that many opportunities for shot blocks.
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12/16/2006  3:56 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:


The Spurs better dump their team then because they are 22nd in the NBA in shot blocking with only 1 a game more than us :)

Well when you have guys who play as good Man-Man defense as the Spurs do, there aren't going to be that many opportunities for shot blocks.

huh? every time someone shoots there's an opportunity for a shotblock. some teams need it for their d, some don't. but challenging shots is just as good or better than blocking them.
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12/16/2006  3:56 PM
Posted by Rich:

Shot blocking stats are misleading. The more important component is how many shots are altered.

Which would suggest if you are a center who can get 3 or more shots blocked 30-40% of games played on the season then more than likely many shots in those games were altered also.
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12/16/2006  4:01 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:


The Spurs better dump their team then because they are 22nd in the NBA in shot blocking with only 1 a game more than us :)

Well when you have guys who play as good Man-Man defense as the Spurs do, there aren't going to be that many opportunities for shot blocks.


I was going to post the exact same thing but you beat me to it. Pop is probably the best defensive coach in the game. They play great team defense that's anchored by their starting center who has had 7 gms with at least 3blks or more.
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12/16/2006  4:02 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:


The Spurs better dump their team then because they are 22nd in the NBA in shot blocking with only 1 a game more than us :)

Well when you have guys who play as good Man-Man defense as the Spurs do, there aren't going to be that many opportunities for shot blocks.

huh? every time someone shoots there's an opportunity for a shotblock. some teams need it for their d, some don't. but challenging shots is just as good or better than blocking them.

I would think and I'd be interested if there was actually a stat for this, that most shotblock opportunities come off penetration as well as help defense. If you have good defenders there isn't going to be as much penetration and there is less of a need for help defense. Just my opinion though.
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12/16/2006  4:02 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Shot blocking stats are misleading. The more important component is how many shots are altered.

Which would suggest if you are a center who can get 3 or more shots blocked 30-40% of games played on the season then more than likely many shots in those games were altered also.

Except that like an OFer with a great arm but who doesn't have many assists because teams won't run on him, teams may stop challenging a shot blocker which would tamp down on his blocked shots per game average.
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12/16/2006  4:04 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by Rich:

Shot blocking stats are misleading. The more important component is how many shots are altered.

Which would suggest if you are a center who can get 3 or more shots blocked 30-40% of games played on the season then more than likely many shots in those games were altered also.

That must explain why 2 of the only 3 guys ever to average 3 blocks per game for their whole career Mark Eaton and Manute Bol were such dominant players. Good call! :)
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12/16/2006  4:06 PM
1. 3 or more blocks
2. 10 or more rebounds
3. All the other categories are roughly tied
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