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djsunyc
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12/15/2006  6:05 PM
here is player A's #'s:

age   min     ppg     ast     reb     stl     to     fg%     3fg%    ft%
22 25 10.7 4.2 2.3 1.0 1.7 41.3 35.5 80.6
23 35 17.3 5.1 3.5 2.4 2.4 38.6 31.7 83.3
24 38 17.7 4.3 2.9 1.3 2.1 39.8 36.1 84.3
25 32 14.3 3.8 3.1 1.1 2.2 41.6 34.5 82.6


here is player B's #'s:
age   min     ppg     ast     reb     stl     to     fg%     3fg%    ft%
21 25 11.1 4.3 2.2 1.5 2.3 39.0 33.9 81.7
22 32 11.3 3.3 2.7 1.0 1.9 34.9 31.6 91.9
23 33 13.9 3.8 2.1 1.3 2.2 38.6 36.2 91.3
24 23 8.6 3.0 2.6 0.8 1.9 33.7 17.1 84.1
25 23 9.3 3.4 2.1 0.7 1.4 42.3 37.6 84.2
26 29 12.5 5.5 2.8 0.8 1.7 42.3 39.4 88.5
27 31 16.2 3.9 3.7 0.9 1.8 39.4 38.8 87.9
28 35 16.9 5.7 3.5 1.1 2.4 44.3 42.6 89.8
29 36 18.5 8.6 3.1 0.9 2.1 41.8 43.3 89.4


you can see, at the age of 25, player A and player B are very comparable. and it looked like player A was making a similar upswing as player B but this year, he took a step back.

here are their stats this year:
age   min     ppg     ast     reb     stl     to     fg%     3fg%    ft%
26 34 15.3 3.7 2.9 1.0 2.3 38.6 28.7 78.6
30 37 18.3 8.2 3.0 1.2 2.4 44.2 37.5 88.7


player A: jamal crawford
player B: chauncy billups

if jamal applies himself and gets the right coaching, he could end up being a chauncy billups type player. i don't feel he could ever become that offensive orchestrator and get everyone involved but he could be a more controlled ball handler and can function within a structured offense. the key words of course are "controlled" and "structured" b/c god knows the kid needs control and structure.

[Edited by - djsunyc on 12-15-2006 6:20 PM]
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TMS
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12/15/2006  6:10 PM
i thought he was on his way learning under LB last year... too bad it didn't work out.
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12/15/2006  6:11 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

here is player A's #'s:

age   min     ppg     ast     reb     stl     to     fg%     ft%     3fg%
22 25 10.7 4.2 2.3 1.0 1.7 41.3 35.5 80.6
23 35 17.3 5.1 3.5 2.4 2.4 38.6 31.7 83.3
24 38 17.7 4.3 2.9 1.3 2.1 39.8 36.1 84.3
25 32 14.3 3.8 3.1 1.1 2.2 41.6 34.5 82.6


here is player B's #'s:
age   min     ppg     ast     reb     stl     to     fg%     ft%     3fg%
21 25 11.1 4.3 2.2 1.5 2.3 39.0 33.9 81.7
22 32 11.3 3.3 2.7 1.0 1.9 34.9 31.6 91.9
23 33 13.9 3.8 2.1 1.3 2.2 38.6 36.2 91.3
24 23 8.6 3.0 2.6 0.8 1.9 33.7 17.1 84.1
25 23 9.3 3.4 2.1 0.7 1.4 42.3 37.6 84.2
26 29 12.5 5.5 2.8 0.8 1.7 42.3 39.4 88.5
27 31 16.2 3.9 3.7 0.9 1.8 39.4 38.8 87.9
28 35 16.9 5.7 3.5 1.1 2.4 44.3 42.6 89.8
29 36 18.5 8.6 3.1 0.9 2.1 41.8 43.3 89.4


you can see, at the age of 25, player A and player B are very comparable. and it looked like player A was making a similar upswing as player B but this year, he took a step back.

here are their stats this year:
age   min     ppg     ast     reb     stl     to     fg%     ft%     3fg%
26 34 15.3 3.7 2.9 1.0 2.3 38.6 28.7 78.6
30 37 18.3 8.2 3.0 1.2 2.4 44.2 37.5 88.7


player A: jamal crawford
player B: chauncy billups

if jamal applies himself and gets the right coaching, he could end up being a chauncy billups type player. i don't feel he could ever become that offensive orchestrator and get everyone involved but he could be a more controlled ball handler and can function within a structured offense. the key words of course are "controlled" and "structured" b/c god knows the kid needs control and structure.

they're both awesome 3-point shooters but they better work on those free throws.
djsunyc
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12/15/2006  6:20 PM
go to hell.
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12/15/2006  6:24 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

go to hell.

i already live in hell . . . .

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12/15/2006  6:27 PM
Posted by TMS:

i thought he was on his way learning under LB last year... too bad it didn't work out.



The stats say he did. But LB gone back to unbridaled Jamal.
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12/15/2006  6:29 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by djsunyc:

go to hell.

i already live in hell . . . .

I'M A KNICK FAN!!!!

HAHA!!
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12/15/2006  6:39 PM
I think 26 year old crawford is better then 26 year old Billups up to those points in there careers. I do believe Marbury/Francis Poison Crawford's mind set.......
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12/15/2006  6:51 PM
crawford has all star talent but is inconsistent and needs a man's coach, whereas curry needs a player's coach.

it'll never work.

crawford needs an lb.

curry needs an isiah.
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12/15/2006  7:06 PM
ANd this is true because???? IT was posted!!!LOL


People throw around Never alot these days. Crawford is a good player that needs to start and play 30 plus mintues, that is fact you can look up......

[Edited by - anji on 12-15-2006 7:07 PM]
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12/15/2006  8:50 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

crawford has all star talent but is inconsistent and needs a man's coach, whereas curry needs a player's coach.

it'll never work.

crawford needs an lb.

curry needs an isiah.

agreed.
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12/15/2006  9:34 PM
Posted by bobs3304:

crawford has all star talent but is inconsistent and needs a man's coach, whereas curry needs a player's coach.

it'll never work.

crawford needs an lb.

curry needs an isiah.


Too many guys on this team who need just the right coach, just the right system, just the right teammates, just the right fans, etc, otherwise you get a disjointed shambles. Those types are a little too delicate for my tastes, and as you point out, you can't cater to 10 or more diverse needs at once.

That's why most managers chose a mentality and a style of play first, and then get guys who fit that mold. Our manager just tries to win the "talent" end of every trade with little regard for the rest.

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12/15/2006  9:38 PM

That's why most managers chose a mentality and a style of play first, and then get guys who fit that mold. Our manager just tries to win the "talent" end of every trade with little regard for the rest.

that about sums it up perfectly
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12/15/2006  9:41 PM
Curry and Jamal have one thing in common.
They both need a diet...
Eddy to lose weight and Jamal to gain
If Jamal will eat some Eddy food they can be both OK on one teem

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