i disagree... i think we have 3 starters that i would rather have over at least half the other starters on other teams.

Curry at C - above average (only maybe 6-8 other C's in the game better than him right now, & he's still improving)

D Lee at PF - above average (pound for pound 1 of the best rebounders in the game right now in his 2nd season, & has everything you want in a player when it comes to the intangibles)

Jefferies at SF - below average (good defender but no offense)

Q Rich at SG - above average (very good rebounder & defender, can score in the low post & on the perimeter, & brings leadership intangibles to the table)

Marbury at PG - below average (when you have guys like Milt Palacio & Tyronn Lue torching you on a regular basis, you're pretty much done)

Curry: Above average, Average, or Below average? at Center
D Lee: Above average, Average, or Below average? at PF
Jeffries: Above average, Average, or Below average? at SF
Qrich: Above average, Average, or Below average? at SG
Marbury: Above average, Average, or Below average? at PG

Qrich could be above average at SG. Ill have to see him play more SG before deciding. I'm a Qrich fan but there are a lot of good sgs

yes I'm talking over all as a group.
I agree our frontcourt is promissing but our backcourt is weak.

i made a "Who would you rather have" thread on Q a while back & most people said they preferred him over at least half the other starters in the league... damn, where's that search feature when you need it?

This is actually a good thread.

Above average? Average? Below average?

Curry: Above average, Average, or Below average? at Center
D Lee: Above average, Average, or Below average? at PF
Jeffries: Above average, Average, or Below average? at SF
Qrich: Above average, Average, or Below average? at SG
Marbury: Above average, Average, or Below average? at PG

I think Curry is our only above average player, and that's only because the center position is generally not a position where you get a lot of scoring out of. I'll be honest, I've knocked Curry a lot, but I'm starting to think if you put the right players around him, you could have a solid (but not championship) team. Unfortunately I don't think we *have* the right players to put around him and I'm not sure how to acquire those.

David Lee, I like him a lot, but at the end of the day, his defense is average, at best, and he struggles a bit against the stronger PFs. This may be something that will improve in time, and I think Lee will eventually be above average, I don't think he's there yet. He's definitely above average for a guy coming off the bench, though.

Jeffries is just not a starting quality player. I explain more below.

Quentin Richardson is my favorite Knick. I really like his game and style. But, at the end of the day, there's a lot of good SGs in the league. Q may be slightly above average, but I'm not sure he's one of the top 10 SGs in the league... but he may be there soon.

Marbury is our worst player. Worst attitude, worst player. I'd rather have one of the Knicks dancers as our PG at this point. Mebury can go to hell.

Posted by MS:

Jefferies looks like a bad signing, i know he is injured and just getting back and that takes time, but he does nothing offensively and he is not that good on defense that we can afford to play a man down every possession

I agree. I don't like the signing since we have Balkman. I liked Jeffries as a guy off the bench, but not a starter. Since Balkman is already our guy off the bench, Jeffries looks like he doesn't fit in.

[Edited by - Solace on 13-12-2006 11:31 AM]

Curry: Above average at Center
D Lee: Average at PF
Jeffries: Average at SF
Qrich: Average at SG
Marbury: Below average at PG