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holfresh
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12/10/2006  10:07 AM

Much has been made about Curry since he was traded for...Curry has been putting up Franchise type numbers..It's still early but his play has been consistent of late...Did Isiah deliver us the Franchise player people has been seeking since Patrick?
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12/10/2006  10:16 AM
Probably not holla, but Curry is looking to be a pretty good player. I think if IT is not fired, at some point he will try to consoldate the talent and get a top-level player. Give our talent level a 'peak' instead of the wide plateau thing we have going now.

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12/10/2006  10:19 AM
When the game got tight last night, I was screaming at the tv for the guys to pound it into to Curry. Its getting to the point were you expect him to deliver when he gets the ball in the paint. Not since Ewing have we had such a presence on offense. To win in this league, you need an offensive presence like Curry. Thids is what Terry Stots said abut Curry last night:

"Eddy Curry was a monster," Bucks coach Terry Stotts said. "He gets it in deep, he finished around the paint. His presence set up everything. He set up the 3-point shot, he set up penetration, the game he was having just helped everybody. He's a talented young kid."

When you have a player that commands so much attention, it opens it up for everyone and makes people aropund him better. Thats the key, franchise players make others around them better.
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12/10/2006  10:29 AM
As great as Patrick was (top 50 player/top 10 center) he gave us a much different type of post game than Curry. Patrick had a great jumper and he would use it. Currys post game is always going to the rim not away from it. Patrick was a lot better than Curry in basically every way but I do like a guy that just keeps attacking the rim. Its fun to watch
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/10/2006  10:40 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

As great as Patrick was (top 50 player/top 10 center) he gave us a much different type of post game than Curry. Patrick had a great jumper and he would use it. Currys post game is always going to the rim not away from it. Patrick was a lot better than Curry in basically every way but I do like a guy that just keeps attacking the rim. Its fun to watch

Don't forget got a lot of criticism for being a jump shooting center and not a center that attacked the rim...But you are right...Ewing head and shoulders better...
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12/10/2006  10:45 AM
Patrick was probably the greatest Knick ever. Eddy Curry is not Patrick nor will he be. But Eddy curry can still be a 20-9 all star center and thats plenty! :)
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/10/2006  10:51 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Patrick was probably the greatest Knick ever. Eddy Curry is not Patrick nor will he be. But Eddy curry can still be a 20-9 all star center and thats plenty! :)

Eddy and this team is a long way off but if somehow they win a Championship...Those "nots" and "never will be's" won't be part of many people's vocabulary...
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12/10/2006  10:51 AM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Patrick was probably the greatest Knick ever. Eddy Curry is not Patrick nor will he be. But Eddy curry can still be a 20-9 all star center and thats plenty! :)

Eddy and this team is a long way off but if somehow they win a Championship...Those "nots" and "never will be's" won't be part of many people's vocabulary...


You got a good point there Freshie.
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12/10/2006  10:53 AM
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

As great as Patrick was (top 50 player/top 10 center) he gave us a much different type of post game than Curry. Patrick had a great jumper and he would use it. Currys post game is always going to the rim not away from it. Patrick was a lot better than Curry in basically every way but I do like a guy that just keeps attacking the rim. Its fun to watch

Don't forget got a lot of criticism for being a jump shooting center and not a center that attacked the rim...But you are right...Ewing head and shoulders better...



What would be the point in a 6'10, 300lb center taking jumpers? Game on the line, you want to get a high percentage shot. Currys game is predicated to take high percentage shots ala Shaq. And in no way am I comparing Curry to Ewing or Shaq. I'm just saying, its good to see we might finally have a go to guy down the stretch of close games. Needs to improve his freethrows however.
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12/10/2006  10:58 AM
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

As great as Patrick was (top 50 player/top 10 center) he gave us a much different type of post game than Curry. Patrick had a great jumper and he would use it. Currys post game is always going to the rim not away from it. Patrick was a lot better than Curry in basically every way but I do like a guy that just keeps attacking the rim. Its fun to watch

Don't forget got a lot of criticism for being a jump shooting center and not a center that attacked the rim...But you are right...Ewing head and shoulders better...



What would be the point in a 6'10, 300lb center taking jumpers? Game on the line, you want to get a high percentage shot. Currys game is predicated to take high percentage shots ala Shaq. And in no way am I comparing Curry to Ewing or Shaq. I'm just saying, its good to see we might finally have a go to guy down the stretch of close games. Needs to improve his freethrows however.

3 times in a week I have read after all the other knicks players are long gone from practice EC has been staying late practicing his post moves and free throws!

I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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12/10/2006  11:08 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by bigbeast:
Posted by holfresh:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

As great as Patrick was (top 50 player/top 10 center) he gave us a much different type of post game than Curry. Patrick had a great jumper and he would use it. Currys post game is always going to the rim not away from it. Patrick was a lot better than Curry in basically every way but I do like a guy that just keeps attacking the rim. Its fun to watch

Don't forget got a lot of criticism for being a jump shooting center and not a center that attacked the rim...But you are right...Ewing head and shoulders better...



What would be the point in a 6'10, 300lb center taking jumpers? Game on the line, you want to get a high percentage shot. Currys game is predicated to take high percentage shots ala Shaq. And in no way am I comparing Curry to Ewing or Shaq. I'm just saying, its good to see we might finally have a go to guy down the stretch of close games. Needs to improve his freethrows however.

3 times in a week I have read after all the other knicks players are long gone from practice EC has been staying late practicing his post moves and free throws!

Your preaching to the choir Sugar. I love to see that he's working hard and is shaking off that "Lazy" tag.
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12/10/2006  11:11 AM
Posted by holfresh:


Much has been made about Curry since he was traded for...Curry has been putting up Franchise type numbers..It's still early but his play has been consistent of late...Did Isiah deliver us the Franchise player people has been seeking since Patrick?


The bottom line is Curry has played like a franchise player in this string of games. Like I said in a different post, the ghost of shaq hgas risen in his body and he is now playing to his capabilities. I think we are all set upfront and we have to give IT a lot of credit for that. He acquired every piece.
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12/10/2006  11:20 AM
What were Ewing's averages when he was 23 years old?

The bottom line is we have a very capable center(hardest position to find) if not a franchise player for the next 10 years. You build accordingly! You find out what Eddy is not and put that next to him in the Power Forward spot! Then maybe add a deadly spot up 3 point shooter and were well on our way!
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12/10/2006  11:53 AM
Curry is not a franchise player. He could turn into one and he is going in that direction but he isn't a franchise player. I really hope he can get there!
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12/10/2006  11:56 AM
Ewing at 23

20pts 9rebs 2 blks

Curry(this year) so far!

18pts 7rebs .6blks
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12/10/2006  4:26 PM
Curry is getting closer. He needs to work on his defense, defensive rotations, shot-blocking, and rebounding, which are all things that he has the physical skills to improve. He also needs to work on his passing out of the post and learn to repost after the pass out. These are again things that he should be able to learn. He needs to improve his freethrows, which he apparently is working on as we speak. And he needs to develop a short jumpshot to round out his offensive game. But the one thing he seems to have down, is scoring around the basic against his own man at a high percentage, which really is the thing that most bigmen cannot do. My point is that all the defects in his game are things that he can improve on with proper training, hardwork, and focus. The sky really is the limit to what he can be if he commits himself. It is really up to Curry, but I was happy to see the crowd last night show some appreciation and recognition that the kid has been working on his game.
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12/10/2006  4:44 PM
Posted by n24d30:

Ewing at 23

20pts 9rebs 2 blks

Curry(this year) so far!

18pts 7rebs .6blks

Ewing was smart enough to go to Georgetown where he learned under one of the best college coaches of all time. As a result, to compare their relative development at this age is not particularly meaningful.
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12/10/2006  4:54 PM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by n24d30:

Ewing at 23

20pts 9rebs 2 blks

Curry(this year) so far!

18pts 7rebs .6blks

Ewing was smart enough to go to Georgetown where he learned under one of the best college coaches of all time. As a result, to compare their relative development at this age is not particularly meaningful.

same could be said that Eddy had PROFESSIONAL level help and $$$ to boot for full year training, unlike college kids.
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12/10/2006  4:58 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by holfresh:


Much has been made about Curry since he was traded for...Curry has been putting up Franchise type numbers..It's still early but his play has been consistent of late...Did Isiah deliver us the Franchise player people has been seeking since Patrick?


The bottom line is Curry has played like a franchise player in this string of games. Like I said in a different post, the ghost of shaq hgas risen in his body and he is now playing to his capabilities. I think we are all set upfront and we have to give IT a lot of credit for that. He acquired every piece.
really? Knicks are 4-6 in the last 10 games including several blowout games. Curry scores and the guards are finally realizing they need to get him the ball in motion. Aside from that his defense is still terrible. His rebounding is less of a factor with Lee playing next to him now but Curry is a one way player. How many of these great games has he really had an impact on?

I'm glad he's playing well, but mentioning him with Ewing is embarrasing (for Pat)

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12/10/2006  4:59 PM
Curry and the "F" word...
on a side note I thought this thread was going to be about Eddy being fat an something about him actually addressing that.
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