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efw
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11/29/2006  4:29 PM
Simmons article got me thinking. Would you make a trade for VC now?
say something like Crawford, Q, and Frye? (i know he suggested Lee, but I wouldn't do it)
Vince would get us into the playoffs this year, and his contract could drop off if we wanted it to.

Now, no way NJ does this right now. But, if they keep losing and knowing they probably won't sign Carter this offseason anyway, they might get rid of him.

We would definitely need to throw in something else because Thorn wouldn't want to just make a division rival better without obvious return.
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11/29/2006  7:06 PM
you really think the nets would ever trade a player like vine carter to the knicks of all teams?
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11/29/2006  8:09 PM
vince would sulk here. him, francis and marbury on the same team is suicide.
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11/29/2006  8:31 PM
If jersey makes any trades it will be Kidd and Richard jefferson for KG.
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11/30/2006  12:34 AM
Isiah doesn't want a dominating ball hog and Vince would have just as much trouble adjusting as Marbs and Francis have
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11/30/2006  12:35 AM
i would think maybe orlando can get involved here and move darko for vince.
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11/30/2006  12:35 AM
Posted by efw:

Simmons article got me thinking. Would you make a trade for VC now?
say something like Crawford, Q, and Frye? (i know he suggested Lee, but I wouldn't do it)
Vince would get us into the playoffs this year, and his contract could drop off if we wanted it to.

Now, no way NJ does this right now. But, if they keep losing and knowing they probably won't sign Carter this offseason anyway, they might get rid of him.

We would definitely need to throw in something else because Thorn wouldn't want to just make a division rival better without obvious return.

hell no i wouldnt make that trade...trade away our future for vince??? cmon man what you smoking

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11/30/2006  12:36 AM
I don't think Vince is going anywhere. I think NJ will win the Atlantic.
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11/30/2006  12:37 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

I don't think Vince is going anywhere. I think NJ will win the Atlantic.

with 38 wins.
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11/30/2006  12:37 AM
Probably but well see where NJ is next year when Kidd is on his last legs and Vince is out the door
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11/30/2006  12:39 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by crzymdups:

I don't think Vince is going anywhere. I think NJ will win the Atlantic.

with 38 wins.

45-ish, I'm thinking the whole East will heat up. I wonder if because the East is so guard-centric if this is all about the guards getting used to the new ball?
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11/30/2006  12:40 AM
Posted by izybx:

Probably but well see where NJ is next year when Kidd is on his last legs and Vince is out the door

if i'm nj, i divest and trade kidd and vince this deadline. recoup some young players and picks and rebuild. get a new young team for the new arena.
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11/30/2006  12:41 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by izybx:

Probably but well see where NJ is next year when Kidd is on his last legs and Vince is out the door

if i'm nj, i divest and trade kidd and vince this deadline. recoup some young players and picks and rebuild. get a new young team for the new arena.

Not a bad idea but you know that wont happen. NJ will rot in place for the next couple years riding out Kidd
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11/30/2006  12:43 AM
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by izybx:

Probably but well see where NJ is next year when Kidd is on his last legs and Vince is out the door

if i'm nj, i divest and trade kidd and vince this deadline. recoup some young players and picks and rebuild. get a new young team for the new arena.

that's a good point. I think NJ is at a similar junction to what the Knicks were after the 2000 season. Kidd is on the downside, Vince is not worth a max extension. they should build around RJ and Nenad and Marcus and try to get some players/picks for Kidd/Carter. I don't think they can trade Kidd, but they'd be wise to trade Carter rather than sign him and regret it.
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11/30/2006  12:44 AM
If Marbury isn't going in the deal, no way.
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11/30/2006  12:45 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by djsunyc:
Posted by izybx:

Probably but well see where NJ is next year when Kidd is on his last legs and Vince is out the door

if i'm nj, i divest and trade kidd and vince this deadline. recoup some young players and picks and rebuild. get a new young team for the new arena.

that's a good point. I think NJ is at a similar junction to what the Knicks were after the 2000 season. Kidd is on the downside, Vince is not worth a max extension. they should build around RJ and Nenad and Marcus and try to get some players/picks for Kidd/Carter. I don't think they can trade Kidd, but they'd be wise to trade Carter rather than sign him and regret it.

what young big man can vince get you?

darko? aldridge? sean may + ely?
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