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GodSaveTheKnicks
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11/29/2006  1:00 PM
Boy that Bulls game was fun to watch. It's like I'm stuck in a basketball Groundhogs day. Knicks close to within 1 or 2 points by the 4th following a turnover and missed free throw parade fueled collapse.

Since our cap is screwed till 2009. I see 3 years before we can contend for a championship after that. It's only 6 years total. Patience grasshopper.

Knicks win it all in 2012. You heard it here first.
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Elite
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11/29/2006  1:02 PM
i agree with the groundhog day ****
GodSaveTheKnicks
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11/29/2006  1:12 PM
"After Curry's layup cut Chicago's lead to 82-78, the Knicks' next six possessions went like this: Marbury turnover, Crawford offensive foul, Marbury missed jumper, Curry travel, David Lee layup, Francis missed jumper. Meanwhile, Chicago was slowly building a 12-point lead."

The only positive in there was the David Lee layup. David Lee is like the chick Bill Murray fell in love with in that movie.
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LongIslandKnicksFan
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11/29/2006  2:03 PM
2012 is when everything is supposed to change for the better...Spiritually, etc... Some people say its the end of the world on December 21st, 2012 I believe...But it's really just the end of the Mayank calender.
islesfan
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11/29/2006  2:17 PM
To be fair, considering what Isiah had to work with when he got here he deserves at least 8 years.
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nyk4ever
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11/29/2006  2:37 PM
Axl Rose said it best. And Knick fans need PLENTY of it.

"all you need is just a little patience"
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Solace
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11/29/2006  2:51 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

Axl Rose said it best. And Knick fans need PLENTY of it.

"all you need is just a little patience"

As long as patience involves a new regime where we're actually allowed to rebuild (some of us wanted to rebuild three or four YEARS ago), patience can be shown. In order to rebuild, you need a plan. Instead, Isiah sells popcorn, Marbury sells shoes. Great.
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nyk4ever
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11/29/2006  3:23 PM
Posted by Solace:
Posted by nyk4ever:

Axl Rose said it best. And Knick fans need PLENTY of it.

"all you need is just a little patience"

As long as patience involves a new regime where we're actually allowed to rebuild (some of us wanted to rebuild three or four YEARS ago), patience can be shown. In order to rebuild, you need a plan. Instead, Isiah sells popcorn, Marbury sells shoes. Great.

But atleast their good business men!

I agree Solace, I wanted to begin rebuilding after it was apparent that McDyess wasn't going to be the player Layden thought he could be. Instead Dolan hired Isiah Thomas and he went out and got Marbury and that was the end of any thoughts of rebuilding. Things HAVE TO BE torn down to in order for things to be turned around here.
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TheGame
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11/29/2006  3:54 PM
Really, we don't need to rebuild per se. IT has already done that. Nate, Lee, Frye, Collins, Jeffries, and Balkman are all solid players that seem to want to play hard and compete. Q is a young SG that, if his back holds up, can be a good player. Crawford at worst is a decent 6th man. That is a fairly good foundation. We could easily trade Curry if need be. He has flaws, but there are not too many big men that can score like him. If Eric Dampier can get paid, some other team will take Curry and send us decent assets for him. Francis is actually playing okay. So really, if you waive Marbury (which admittedly will not happen), trade Francis (I think Miami might bite), and let Rose fall off the books after next year, and sit James on the bench and give him 5 minutes or so, you will be left with the foundation of a solid team. Chicago is not looking as good as people thought, so our draft pick will probably be in the high teens to low twenties again. One thing IT seems to know how to do well is find a solid player in the mid to late first round, so I will assume that we get someone that can actually play and help with our draft pick. Next year, you start Crawford at PG, Q at SG, Jeffries at SF, Lee at PF, Frye at C. Nate is the 6th man and Balkman and Collins are the bench. That is the foundation of a potentially solid team 2 to 3 years from now if our young players keep developing their game. In Frye and Lee we have low post scoring. In Nate, we have scoring and energy off the bench. Q, if his back holds up, gives us outside shooting, and Crawford is a slasher/scorer (although I admit he is probably not a NBA starting PG). Assuming the Curry trade and the draft picks fill in some remaining holes and we should have a playoff team. I continue to believe that the team is only 1 or 2 good trades away from being a solid squad.
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GodSaveTheKnicks
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11/29/2006  4:10 PM
Bravo. A man [or woman?] with HOPE.

I like the sounds of that plan. The only two questions that come to mind at the present.


1. How deep do we get into the playoffs with that starting unit? Though I guess it's a start and if we can clear cap space to bring in a Franchise player, there are a lot of worse teams in the league.

2. The biggest part of the plan is not having Steph or Stevie around. No matter how cooperative of a player you are a player who was considered an All Star and is not getting any minutes can't make for a comfortable atmosphere around the locker room.

Otherwise I like the general idea of trying to find hope instead of lamenting about how crappy we are. Which I am guilty of.
Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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