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11/25/2006  10:46 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/teams/schedule?team=nyk&season=2007

I said after the first 25gms the team would go 9-16 but I'm not quite sure this will happen. I told myself that I should have chosen 8-17 and I'm not quite sure they'll do that. They'll probably go 7-18 because this is groundhog day Knicks.
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11/25/2006  10:52 PM
the BCS says we have a much more difficult schedule this year.
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11/25/2006  10:53 PM
But we're also much better because Larry Brown is gone.
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11/25/2006  11:07 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

the BCS says we have a much more difficult schedule this year.

Are you sure because the wins this yr compared to last yr would suggest the BCS would have to factor in something else.

This yr the team has beat

Memphis
Washington
Denver
Miami
Bos

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=24-38 I'm giving Boston the win tonight. Winning%=33%


Last yr the team beat

Sacramento
Utah
Portland
Philadelphia
Chicago

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=34-44 winning%=43.5%



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:08 PM]
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11/25/2006  11:11 PM
Posted by BasketballJones:

But we're also much better because Larry Brown is gone.

Hmm..
We really was worth that this...
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11/25/2006  11:21 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:

the BCS says we have a much more difficult schedule this year.

Are you sure because the wins this yr compared to last yr would suggest the BCS would have to factor in something else.

This yr the team has beat

Memphis
Washington
Denver
Miami
Bos

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=24-38 I'm giving Boston the win tonight. Winning%=33%


Last yr the team beat

Sacramento
Utah
Portland
Philadelphia
Chicago

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=34-44 winning%=43.5%



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:08 PM]

what;s the record of the teams they've lost to this year and last?
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11/25/2006  11:43 PM
the main difference between last year & this year has been the marked improvement i've seen from the young kids... that's all i was expecting going into this season, so i can't complain much about the W-L record at this point.
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11/25/2006  11:44 PM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:

the BCS says we have a much more difficult schedule this year.

Are you sure because the wins this yr compared to last yr would suggest the BCS would have to factor in something else.

This yr the team has beat

Memphis
Washington
Denver
Miami
Bos

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=24-38 I'm giving Boston the win tonight. Winning%=33%


Last yr the team beat

Sacramento
Utah
Portland
Philadelphia
Chicago

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=34-44 winning%=43.5%



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:08 PM]

what;s the record of the teams they've lost to this year and last?


This yr they have lost to

Atlanta 5-6
Indiana 7-6
San Antonio 10-3
Houston 9-4
San Antonio 10-3
Cleveland 9-5
Bos 5-8
Minnesota 6-6
Houston 9-4
Chicago 4-9

A couple teams they have been swept by. Combined record at the time the Knicks were 5-10=55-47 winning%=51%


Last yr they lost to

Boston 6-9
Washington 7-8
Golden State 12-6
Portland 5-10
Golden State 12-6
Lakers 6-8
Denver 8-9
Charlotte 5-12
Miami 10-6
Det 12-2


They lost to 1 team 2 Combined record at the time the Knicks were 5-10=71-60 winning%=54%

What skews last yr's opponent schedule winning % at the 15win mark was Golden State. They started out of the box last yr with a 12-6 record and finished terribly. Which goes to show this yr could be the same result such as the Knicks reeling off 20wins in a row.(Oky Doky Sure Buddy)

Anyway whoever wants to use the weaker schedule argument just got TKO'd with this damming evidence. If you want to do the math on your own go ahead, I'm pretty sure I'm dead on.


[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:46 PM]

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:57 PM]
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11/25/2006  11:51 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:

the BCS says we have a much more difficult schedule this year.

Are you sure because the wins this yr compared to last yr would suggest the BCS would have to factor in something else.

This yr the team has beat

Memphis
Washington
Denver
Miami
Bos

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=24-38 I'm giving Boston the win tonight. Winning%=33%


Last yr the team beat

Sacramento
Utah
Portland
Philadelphia
Chicago

Combined record for those teams at the time the Knicks were 5-10=34-44 winning%=43.5%



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:08 PM]

what;s the record of the teams they've lost to this year and last?


This yr they have lost to

Atlanta
Indiana
San Antonio
Houston
San Antonio
Cleveland
Bos
Minnesota
Houston
Chicago

A couple teams they have been swept by. Combined record at the time the Knicks were 5-10=55-47 winning%=51%


Last yr they lost to

Boston
Washington
Golden State
Portland
Golden State
Lakers
Denver
Charlotte
Miami
Det


They lost to 1 team 2 Combined record at the time the Knicks were 5-10=71-60 winning%=54%

What skews last yr's opponent schedule winning % at the 15win mark was Golden State. They started out of the box last yr with a 12-6 record and finished terribly. Which goes to show this yr could be the same result such as the Knicks reeling off 20wins in a row.(Oky Doky Sure Buddy)

Anyway whoever wants to use the weaker schedule argument just got TKO'd with this damming evidence. If you want to do the math on your own go ahead, I'm pretty sure I'm dead on.


[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-25-2006 10:46 PM]

Bro, I'm not calling you out-I am sure you did all the work yourself, but didn't we already go through this exact conversation in another thread about a week or two ago-I think it was around the time of the away Houston game. The only reason I remember it is I did the exact same leg work you just did, Seats.
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11/25/2006  11:53 PM
well, I tend to think we've played a tougher schedule thus far, but hey, maybe I'm insane. I think San Antonio is a better team than GSW, despite them having similar records early last season, etc.
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11/26/2006  12:02 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

well, I tend to think we've played a tougher schedule thus far, but hey, maybe I'm insane. I think San Antonio is a better team than GSW, despite them having similar records early last season, etc.


Remember you through in the term BCS which would mean you have to go by strength of schedule at that given time. So that means at these givin junctures GSW was a viable strength opponent.


Joe if you did this already then all credit goes to you, although I will say an update shows that from this comparison the last 3 Knick opponents compared to this yr vs last yr are weaker. This would imply the Knicks had 3gms actually to improve on not duplicating last seasons win-loss total.
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11/26/2006  12:06 AM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:

well, I tend to think we've played a tougher schedule thus far, but hey, maybe I'm insane. I think San Antonio is a better team than GSW, despite them having similar records early last season, etc.


Remember you through in the term BCS which would mean you have to go by strength of schedule at that given time. So that means at these givin junctures GSW was a viable strength opponent.


Joe if you did this already then all credit goes to you, although I will say an update shows that from this comparison the last 3 Knick opponents compared to this yr vs last yr are weaker. This would imply the Knicks had 3gms actually to improve on not duplicating last seasons win-loss total.

I'm not takin' anything away from your work bro, nothing at all. Just mentioning that this has been something goin' on for a couple weeks though. It's all good though, because when I did the math a few weeks ago the schedule this year was quite a bit harder(last year was .400 Opp. Win% while this year was at around .500 Opp. win %) so it actually just goes to prove our common point a little bit more.
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11/26/2006  12:09 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by crzymdups:

well, I tend to think we've played a tougher schedule thus far, but hey, maybe I'm insane. I think San Antonio is a better team than GSW, despite them having similar records early last season, etc.


Remember you through in the term BCS which would mean you have to go by strength of schedule at that given time. So that means at these givin junctures GSW was a viable strength opponent.


Joe if you did this already then all credit goes to you, although I will say an update shows that from this comparison the last 3 Knick opponents compared to this yr vs last yr are weaker. This would imply the Knicks had 3gms actually to improve on not duplicating last seasons win-loss total.

I'm not takin' anything away from your work bro, nothing at all. Just mentioning that this has been something goin' on for a couple weeks though. It's all good though, because when I did the math a few weeks ago the schedule this year was quite a bit harder(last year was .400 Opp. Win% while this year was at around .500 Opp. win %) so it actually just goes to prove our common point a little bit more.


Yeah the other day I said I feel the team is worse considering they have the coach they want, freedom, expected player development and a deeper bench(although debateable)
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11/26/2006  12:12 AM
^agree 100%
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11/26/2006  12:15 AM
they're worse because the wheels have fallen off for Marbury.
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11/26/2006  12:20 AM
Posted by crzymdups:

they're worse because the wheels have fallen off for Marbury.

Crazy thing is, I think that they are better because of this.

Now hear me out, I don't think that Marbury is ideal for this offense. Francis is, IMO. All this has done is show Isiah what's up. And the only reason that Marbury is getting all the time he is, is Isiah is not going to admit this mistake until he has to.
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11/26/2006  12:20 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by crzymdups:

they're worse because the wheels have fallen off for Marbury.

Crazy thing is, I think that they are better because of this.

Now hear me out, I don't think that Marbury is ideal for this offense. Francis is, IMO. All this has done is show Isiah what's up. And the only reason that Marbury is getting all the time he is, is Isiah is not going to admit this mistake until he has to.

I think in the long run they will be better for it, but in the short term, it's hurt their record.
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11/26/2006  12:21 AM
Posted by crzymdups:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by crzymdups:

they're worse because the wheels have fallen off for Marbury.

Crazy thing is, I think that they are better because of this.

Now hear me out, I don't think that Marbury is ideal for this offense. Francis is, IMO. All this has done is show Isiah what's up. And the only reason that Marbury is getting all the time he is, is Isiah is not going to admit this mistake until he has to.

I think in the long run they will be better for it, but in the short term, it's hurt their record.

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11/26/2006  12:22 AM
The sad part about this is that everyone besides a Marbury nuthugger came to this conclusion even before Larry was hired.
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