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BRIGGS
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11/21/2006  7:43 PM
A. IT main men are Ed Curry Marbury and Frye. IT has told Dolan that THESE players are IT--that these players will change the franchise--he has hyped up Curry as the next Shaq and frye as Duncan 2. Now we are stuck with it. How can IT go back on it? Comparing the 24 year old Curry who has 6 years pro expereince with patrick ewing and really getting away with it. IT has NO NY in him-he doesnt understand you CANNOT manipulate and lie to NYers

I beg of this team to alter their plan. Put Frye at 5 go get Ike Diogu and get rid of Curry. Maybe Frye will mesh better with Diogu and Lee and we can get another big in the draft next year.

If Minnesota is willing to give me Foye Ill give them Curry and take back Blount and Jaric's contract. It's money thats already spent. put foye at PG/combo with Mardy Collins and leave them there and see what happens.

something please these are the same chaps that won 23 games--why do they lie to themselves????

were not winning ANYTHING with fat arse eddy curry as our main guy does ANYONE think otherwise one soul???????

the way the knicks do things theyll spend a bazillion dollars on rasho and mo pete!
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11/21/2006  7:48 PM
Bro... Here is the problem

#1 - Nobody wants eddy curry

#2 - If Isiah trades Eddy for anything less than he gave to get him (which is impossible to get now) he admits defeat and gets fired... therefor.. We are stuck with Eddy untill either Isiah, Dolan.. or both goes.....

We're ****ed.. thats basically it... I say bench Eddy untill he grows a heart, start Frye and Lee
Marv
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11/21/2006  7:48 PM
close.

but i'd say we're more stuck in a riddle wrapped in a puzzle wrapped in an enigma.
Marv
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11/21/2006  7:50 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:

Put Frye at 5

fish will NEVER go for this!
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11/21/2006  8:02 PM
too much drama associated with the team. so dolan has to suck it up and bring in a new guy to basically take control and re-assess EVERYTHING here. from top to bottom.
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11/21/2006  8:04 PM
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11/21/2006  8:11 PM
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11/21/2006  8:19 PM
patience. lets wait till Jan. November had a crappy schedule to begin with.
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11/21/2006  8:24 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by BRIGGS:

Put Frye at 5

fish will NEVER go for this!
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11/21/2006  8:27 PM
We got Minnesota coming up - they're 3 and 6, and the Bulls who are 3 and 7.
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Posted by BasketballJones:

We got Minnesota coming up - they're 3 and 6, and the Bulls who are 3 and 7.

loss, loss.
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BRIGGS
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11/21/2006  8:38 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

patience. lets wait till Jan. November had a crappy schedule to begin with.


what is the patience for? if you dont have franchise players capable of winning an NBA championship--why bother going nowhere fast? So we can beat the sht teams?
the faster you adress an iseue--meaning coming to grips with the talent level on the frontline and mess with Marbury Francis--the faster the club moves forward.
And golly gee can we play balkman and collins 15-18 minutes every game? we won 23 last year--this is a big problem with a lameduck he DOES not care about those guys he'll go with who he paid for.

the best siuation for the knicks is to clean house and let a new team --built the way the Mavericks formed their front office--decide who goes where. reasonable/???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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11/21/2006  8:42 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Silverfuel:

patience. lets wait till Jan. November had a crappy schedule to begin with.


what is the patience for? if you dont have franchise players capable of winning an NBA championship--why bother going nowhere fast? So we can beat the sht teams?
the faster you adress an iseue--meaning coming to grips with the talent level on the frontline and mess with Marbury Francis--the faster the club moves forward.
And golly gee can we play balkman and collins 15-18 minutes every game? we won 23 last year--this is a big problem with a lameduck he DOES not care about those guys he'll go with who he paid for.

the best siuation for the knicks is to clean house and let a new team --built the way the Mavericks formed their front office--decide who goes where. reasonable/?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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11/21/2006  9:10 PM
Posted by Marv:
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Silverfuel:

patience. lets wait till Jan. November had a crappy schedule to begin with.


what is the patience for? if you dont have franchise players capable of winning an NBA championship--why bother going nowhere fast? So we can beat the sht teams?
the faster you adress an iseue--meaning coming to grips with the talent level on the frontline and mess with Marbury Francis--the faster the club moves forward.
And golly gee can we play balkman and collins 15-18 minutes every game? we won 23 last year--this is a big problem with a lameduck he DOES not care about those guys he'll go with who he paid for.

the best siuation for the knicks is to clean house and let a new team --built the way the Mavericks formed their front office--decide who goes where. reasonable/?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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11/21/2006  9:16 PM
Posted by BRIGGS:
Posted by Silverfuel:

patience. lets wait till Jan. November had a crappy schedule to begin with.


what is the patience for? if you dont have franchise players capable of winning an NBA championship--why bother going nowhere fast? So we can beat the sht teams?
the faster you adress an iseue--meaning coming to grips with the talent level on the frontline and mess with Marbury Francis--the faster the club moves forward.
And golly gee can we play balkman and collins 15-18 minutes every game? we won 23 last year--this is a big problem with a lameduck he DOES not care about those guys he'll go with who he paid for.

the best siuation for the knicks is to clean house and let a new team --built the way the Mavericks formed their front office--decide who goes where. reasonable/???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Briggs- I agree with your main argument. However, I think Isiah is trying to get Curry & Marbury on track.

Regardless of whether we are keeping curry or trading him- he needs his value restored before any team will take him

What about Phoenix- would they send KT back? Doubtful.

How about Erick Dampier?
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11/21/2006  9:33 PM
---> However, I think Isiah is trying to get Curry & Marbury on track.


Thats the whole key bro! They are who they are--Marbury is an older player who is declining physically. Curry is a 24 year old who has statistically worse from 4 years ago!--likely due to his weight and now HEFTy paycheck--he was never that good he did have the potential, but you cant pay that much for potential!

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11/21/2006  11:13 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

too much drama associated with the team. so dolan has to suck it up and bring in a new guy to basically take control and re-assess EVERYTHING here. from top to bottom.

This was already done last year with Jagr and works to perfection. By the way it was Dolan's decision to approve dismentaling of Bure-Lindros Rangers and run with one go-to guy and youth movement...
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11/21/2006  11:51 PM
I agree, The fact that IT has to make good on curry and marbury, has us doomed. I was a huge believer in curry, but after watching him for a year and 12 games this season, nothing has changed with him and I don't believe it ever will, this guy is a DUD!!!!!! I say trade him, go with frye and lee and the other young cats.... move marbs and francis and lets roll with what we have..... Hey this may be a down year for the bulls to, so if we both finish in the lottery as long as we don't get the #1 pick, all is not lost..
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11/22/2006  12:48 AM
Posted by tkf:

I agree, The fact that IT has to make good on curry and marbury, has us doomed. I was a huge believer in curry, but after watching him for a year and 12 games this season, nothing has changed with him and I don't believe it ever will, this guy is a DUD!!!!!! I say trade him, go with frye and lee and the other young cats.... move marbs and francis and lets roll with what we have..... Hey this may be a down year for the bulls to, so if we both finish in the lottery as long as we don't get the #1 pick, all is not lost..


the irony is we've always been told "you can't rebuild in NY, the fans wont stand for it", but the truth is that now dumping the vets and going young may be the only way for dolan to please the fans.


[Edited by - blueseats on 11-22-2006 12:49 AM]
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11/22/2006  3:48 PM
Chicago has been in total rebuild mode for 7 years

what have they won?
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