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EnySpree
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11/16/2006  4:57 AM
They will get Jerome James and Jared jefferies back.

So?

Well frye and curry are both puss. It will be very interesting if Jerome James comes in with a chip (and cheesy salsa dip) on his shoulder and flat out plays like he did in Seattle and Jared comes in and just plays his game.

Will isiah have the manliness to bench curry and frye?

Balkman and lee cannot be benched ever. I think those two guys are in need of a gangster to play with. A straight up bully and that is Jerome James. They also need a guy that is gonna match their games yet being in more skill and that is Jared jefferies.

I know I'm glowing after a win, but I think if Jared and Jerome can come in and just play their games the knicks won't need a trade and they will be alright.

Pf:Jared
Sf:Q
C :Jerome
PG:steph
Sg:Franny

Bench mob:
Lee, balkman, Nate, craw, Collins

Brokeback:
Frye and curry
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11/16/2006  5:35 AM
JJ and JJ. I wouldn't expect much from Jerome James. Jeffries will give us a lot of what Balkman gives us - bigger, but even less o. He's good, but he'll take minutes from Balkman and Q. I like the player, but he's not a good fit. He doesn't add much where he plays.
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11/16/2006  6:48 AM
Jeffries can help the team significantly. James is a disaster and should be waived.
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EnySpree
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11/16/2006  7:22 AM
You guys are brutal.

Do you think isiah can channel the inner Rick mahorn in Jerome James? That's all the knicks need from him really. Just a dude that will hurt the opposing team with his body and protect his teamates.

Frye seems to have gotten the rust out but what is it really? That his timing was off? He was nervous? What happens in the playoffs or if he gets hurt and then comes back again. Will we have to tank 7 games waiting for him to warm up?

A trade is gonna have to happen to loosen up the team. That's why I think Jerome and Jared could present if they come in and play well.

That trade that is already written in the stars is gonna make or break the knicks. Who knows if isiah will even be here by then? Still if the knicks continue to fight and are still in the mix....it could get really interesting.
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11/16/2006  7:54 AM
Jerome sucks and wont play much because he never plays much.

JJSkinny is very interesting because the guy starting in his place is easily the best player on the team right now in Q. Francis looks to be the odd man out
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11/16/2006  8:38 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

You guys are brutal.

Do you think isiah can channel the inner Rick mahorn in Jerome James? That's all the knicks need from him really. Just a dude that will hurt the opposing team with his body and protect his teamates.

Frye seems to have gotten the rust out but what is it really? That his timing was off? He was nervous? What happens in the playoffs or if he gets hurt and then comes back again. Will we have to tank 7 games waiting for him to warm up?

A trade is gonna have to happen to loosen up the team. That's why I think Jerome and Jared could present if they come in and play well.

That trade that is already written in the stars is gonna make or break the knicks. Who knows if isiah will even be here by then? Still if the knicks continue to fight and are still in the mix....it could get really interesting.

I agree, a trade does need to happen, too many people playing the same position. I don't think Jerome will ever amount to anything. He is just a big bust, he played good enough to get an offer. knicks were desparate (pre eddy) and gave his agent the first offer. Q definately deserves the minutes at starting 2 and balkman deserves the minutes off the bench. So that means Franchise should be the one dealt. He is the newest of the bunch and doesnt really have a place yet, 1st chance and i think he is gone. They might even be willing to take some role players for him. It works because he wants to get back to the superstar level and he cant do that here.
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11/16/2006  8:43 AM
I feel you Eny...I think J.James is going to surprise a lot of people.

but I disagree about the knicks do not need a trade. As much as I love Francis, he needs to go. He is wasting away here...and as long as he is here, he is going to take someone else minutes away. (Balkman)
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11/16/2006  8:51 AM
Frye is not soft!!!!!!!!!!
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11/16/2006  9:26 AM
Many Knicks struggled last season

why not Jerome James the opportinity... no the luxury... of returing from injury, and the generosity of a second chance, before continuing with the standard personal insults?
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11/16/2006  9:31 AM
Posted by EnySpree:

They will get Jerome James and Jared jefferies back.

So?

Well frye and curry are both puss. It will be very interesting if Jerome James comes in with a chip (and cheesy salsa dip) on his shoulder and flat out plays like he did in Seattle and Jared comes in and just plays his game.

Will isiah have the manliness to bench curry and frye?

Balkman and lee cannot be benched ever. I think those two guys are in need of a gangster to play with. A straight up bully and that is Jerome James. They also need a guy that is gonna match their games yet being in more skill and that is Jared jefferies.

I know I'm glowing after a win, but I think if Jared and Jerome can come in and just play their games the knicks won't need a trade and they will be alright.

Pf:Jared
Sf:Q
C :Jerome
PG:steph
Sg:Franny

Bench mob:
Lee, balkman, Nate, craw, Collins

Brokeback:
Frye and curry

Stop it Eny!!!

Frye is the only guy on the squad trying to hold down the interior defense!

So he likes to shoot the J...don't tell me it ain't water now that he has it going a little something!

He gots the crazy game and he's smooth like butter!

It's like butter baby....

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11/16/2006  9:37 AM
Posted by fishmike:

Jerome sucks and wont play much because he never plays much.

JJSkinny is very interesting because the guy starting in his place is easily the best player on the team right now in Q. Francis looks to be the odd man out

agreed. JJ and Q together at the SG and SF takes our starting lineup from a bad defensive team to a dangerous one on that end. francis should never have been here in the first place, let's jsut forget that ever happened.
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11/16/2006  9:37 PM
Posted by fishmike:

Jerome sucks and wont play much because he never plays much.

JJSkinny is very interesting because the guy starting in his place is easily the best player on the team right now in Q. Francis looks to be the odd man out
Francis or Frye would probably come out of the starting rotation. I agree that Q is the best player on the team now and must stay in the starting lineup, but JJSkinny is really versatile and can play many positions.

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11/16/2006  10:40 PM

You guys are nuts...If Frye gets his act together, he can be a game changer..Frye and Curry have the talent that can lift a Franchise and change the direction of a hapless organization much like the Knicks...You are kidding yourselves if you think Isiah won't give these guys all the opportunity in the world to do so...Don't get me wrong, I love Lee and what he brings to the table but Frye is the guy you can hang the hopes of your Franchise on...It's not insane to say this guy can be a 20 and 10 guy...Now he is showing signs of being a more than adequate interior help defender, you just have to love that...When is the last time you guys see a Knick have 3 block shots in one game? Camby?, actually it was Nazr I think, but you get the point...I say we ride Curry and Frye until they lead us out of this wilderness we have been in over the last seven years...I want to develop the game changing talent on this roster...That will lead to championships...Lee and JJ will be good hustle guys that will help get us through the season...Come playoff time, everyone hustles, you're going to need more than that to win games...Develop the talent!!!
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11/17/2006  1:57 AM
When Jeff comes back Fran needs to sit. Q has earned a spot in the starting lineup, and i believe that frye is the future...unlike the majority of posters on this site i dont lose faith in a guy after 7 bad games.

Curry
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JJ
Q
Marbs

Fran
Craw
Lee
Nate
Balk

Trade time anyone?
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11/17/2006  3:11 AM
Posted by fishmike:

Jerome sucks and wont play much because he never plays much.

JJSkinny is very interesting because the guy starting in his place is easily the best player on the team right now in Q. Francis looks to be the odd man out

which is fine with me. Having Jeffries and Q in the lineup interests me. Two good defenders and two high BBALL IQ's on the floor... Q should start at SG, mover francis to the bench. or another team if we can find a sucker..

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11/17/2006  9:38 AM
The ideal lineup, and we're talking finishing, is...
Crawford, QRich, Jeffries, Frye, Lee.
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11/17/2006  10:10 AM
An ideal lineup would never have Crawford in. I agree on the other four though.
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11/17/2006  10:21 AM
Jefferies is going to be huge for us. He can defend 4 positions and will make us at the very least an average defensive team. Frye should be the 6th man for this team getting the bulk of his mins with Curry on the bench. They should each play between 25 and 30 mpg with as little overlap as possible.

The lineup that should start is:

Marbury, Q, Jefferies, Lee, Curry (3 scorers with 2 perfect role players who don't need the ball to be effective)

with a bench of Frye, Nate, Crawford, Balkman - that's an energized second unit with some firepower

Jefferies is huge because he could play the 4 or the 5 very effectively when we go small.

Nate, Crawford, Balkman, Lee, Jefferies -- that unit would be very fun to watch and create fits for opposing teams
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11/17/2006  10:33 AM
Posted by wsdm:

An ideal lineup would never have Crawford in. I agree on the other four though.

I agree with your thoughts in an ideal scenario but Craw is a better distributor and slasher than Marb and Fran at this point in their respective careers. I would like to see Craw off the bench but he is just a better passer.... IF you can force him to pass the ball.
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11/17/2006  10:46 AM
I was mostly basing it on training camp when they said that Qrich/Crawford's teams never lost.

I like Craw better off the bench, remember, I'm talking finishing...so I guess it's an ideal finishing lineup.
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