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11/14/2006  9:01 AM
This is why Eddy must go, the Knicks come charging back and there Eddy is just looking at the rim, not putting a body on anyone and all of a sudden the rebound drops and there is Curry waiting not going after the ball, not getting on the floor after he just allowed Cleveland to get the rebound.

The reasons why we lose: COACHING

What is Curry doing guarding Varejo in the fourth? Terrible matchup out there and Eddy was not playing very well or hustling.

Where is David Lee during the fourth, and why is he not starting?

Why does he continue to play Channing with Eddy?

Why does Crawford continue to get the mintues? He was horrific in the first half, and I mean terrible taking more than half of the shot clock, going one on one not getting people involved and then taking terrible shots, 3 of which led to fast breaks?

Why does Nate come out for Crawford in the second quarter after he is perfect from the field and is giving the team much needed energy.

Why does Isiah not realize that Nate and Lee will ensure the first unit plays with enough energy and get the fans into it. Lets face it Curry is not going to be sat and niether is Steph.

Nate plays Great with Lee, he looks better out there with Steph, and the same go with Crawford and Francis, its not that hard to see. There is a good team in here that can compete, but he never puts it on the floor.

Nate/Francis
Steph/Crawford
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Lee/Balkman
Curry/Frye

As bad as Steph and Steve have been, Francis really makes an effort to get people the ball, but Jamaal is pounding it and looking to go one on one and people get frustrated and annoyed and it reflects terrible on everyone.

And the worst thing about this team is our backcourt depth it skills any sort of rythm these guys get in, and this is why Isiah is such a fool, if you draft Nate and you think he is going to be this type of player there is no need to handcuff the franchise with 39 million on Steve Francis. That move alone set this team back a few years.
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11/14/2006  9:25 AM
Curry also played a large role in the comeback to within 1 point. He had like 6 points and 3 boards in that time. as far as playing against z or varejo I thought Curry played just as well or better than both of them.

I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/14/2006  9:33 AM
Posted by MS:

This is why Eddy must go, the Knicks come charging back and there Eddy is just looking at the rim, not putting a body on anyone and all of a sudden the rebound drops and there is Curry waiting not going after the ball, not getting on the floor after he just allowed Cleveland to get the rebound.

I was watching the game with a friend of mine who doesn't watch too much Knicks basketball. We had the DVR going and I was working the remote in rapid-fire rewind/fastforward clicks. "Look how Eddie doesn't rotate". "Look at him look at the ball bouncing off the rim instead of going after it." "Look at him not box out." Like that and more.

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11/14/2006  9:36 AM
Dude getting two great feeds and dunking the ball is not really distinguishing yourself, Crawford and Lee gave him chip shots, where he didn't have to do anything. And playing better than those guys isn't the problem, its getting caught on the switch and letting another players man score which happened quite a few times, most notably at the top of the key where he got trippedup and allowed Crawfords man to score.

When Varejo was coming up to set screens Eddy really leaves the team in a tough position with rotations, its has nothing to do with being better than Z or V which he is, it was just a bad matchup.

And 9/10 times when Eddy gets a rebound it goes right to him, would have rather have seen lee out there with that unit
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11/14/2006  9:38 AM
And Balkman if you wanna justify drafting the guy, play him he isn't going to hurt the team, god things happen when he is out there with the energy unit, with Lee/Nate
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11/14/2006  9:39 AM
I remember one play at the end of the game where the Knicks were playing D and Craw was picked by Curry's man. After Curry's man rolled Curry didn't know where to go and ended up picking Crawford (or at least not being able to get out of the way). It was hilarious.
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11/14/2006  9:40 AM
Curry 13 points on 9 shots with 7 rebs in 33 minutes isnt great but its not horrible. Curry did not win nor lose that game for us.

Big Z had 4 points on 5 shots with 7 rebs in 20 mins
Varejo had 6 points on 4 shots with 6 rebounds in 24 min

Lebron and Damon Jones destroying our guards/sf from the outside was what killed us. 48% shooting from 3 point land killed us.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/14/2006  9:41 AM
thats what i just mentioned, horrible.....

but offensive production is all that matters on this site no one looks at how we get ****ed on rotations because we have to double down and no one rotates. If Eddy came into camp 15 lighter which he should of the difference would be dramatic.
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11/14/2006  9:44 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Curry 13 points on 9 shots with 7 rebs in 33 minutes isnt great but its not horrible. Curry did not win nor lose that game for us.

Big Z had 4 points on 5 shots with 7 rebs in 20 mins
Varejo had 6 points on 4 shots with 6 rebounds in 24 min

Lebron and Damon Jones destroying our guards/sf from the outside was what killed us. 48% shooting from 3 point land killed us.

Curry didn't lose the game for the Knicks but he could have won it for them.... by getting that extra rebound, by blocking out so someone else could have gotten it, but rotating over when he should have so others don't get an at-the-rim shot.
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11/14/2006  9:49 AM
Thats what i don't understand, why would you ever double Lebron, play him straight up, the team is not that talented, Jones was hot last night, but he isn't great at creating his own shots.

Lebron is so good he is always going to find the open man and that tends to get bigs in foul trouble because someone is doubling and then they are late on the rotation and have to come down and cover the cutter and than they get to the line.
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11/14/2006  9:55 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

Curry 13 points on 9 shots with 7 rebs in 33 minutes isnt great but its not horrible. Curry did not win nor lose that game for us.

Big Z had 4 points on 5 shots with 7 rebs in 20 mins
Varejo had 6 points on 4 shots with 6 rebounds in 24 min

Lebron and Damon Jones destroying our guards/sf from the outside was what killed us. 48% shooting from 3 point land killed us.

Curry didn't lose the game for the Knicks but he could have won it for them.... by getting that extra rebound, by blocking out so someone else could have gotten it, but rotating over when he should have so others don't get an at-the-rim shot.


Martin you think its easy rebounding the ball vs the other team when Isiah goes with a 4 guard lineup? Those 4 guard lineups have killed us all season so Isiah decided lets go with a 5 guard lineup. His coaching rotations in critical situations are the worst Ive ever seen.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/14/2006  9:58 AM
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Curry 13 points on 9 shots with 7 rebs in 33 minutes isnt great but its not horrible. Curry did not win nor lose that game for us.

Big Z had 4 points on 5 shots with 7 rebs in 20 mins
Varejo had 6 points on 4 shots with 6 rebounds in 24 min

Lebron and Damon Jones destroying our guards/sf from the outside was what killed us. 48% shooting from 3 point land killed us.

Curry didn't lose the game for the Knicks but he could have won it for them.... by getting that extra rebound, by blocking out so someone else could have gotten it, but rotating over when he should have so others don't get an at-the-rim shot.


Martin you think its easy rebounding the ball vs the other team when Isiah goes with a 4 guard lineup? Those 4 guard lineups have killed us all season so Isiah decided lets go with a 5 guard lineup. His coaching rotations in critical situations are the worst Ive ever seen.

It doesn't bother Lee.

Look, I understand a situation where a Center is playing with 4 guards. That's overwhelming. I am talking about when Curry is out there and not blocking his man out, regardless of who else is on the court. Or when he just stands and watches the ball bounce off the rim instead of going at it agressively. I SEE THAT HAPPENING. That's not a factor of who else is out there with him. That's a factor of Curry's joy for the game. Marbury stole it!
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11/14/2006  10:03 AM
Posted by martin:

I remember one play at the end of the game where the Knicks were playing D and Craw was picked by Curry's man. After Curry's man rolled Curry didn't know where to go and ended up picking Crawford (or at least not being able to get out of the way). It was hilarious.

I saw that, its like he doesnt wanna guard either guy so he hovers in the middle, guarding crawford.
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11/14/2006  10:05 AM
Did anyone see Curry double team Lebron in the post when Marbury was guarding him? It was like Curry was in slow-mo moving over to the near side of the lane (for the TV viewers). Wow. Worst double team I have EVER seen.
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11/14/2006  10:07 AM
Posted by martin:

Did anyone see Curry double team Lebron in the post when Marbury was guarding him? It was like Curry was in slow-mo moving over to the near side of the lane (for the TV viewers). Wow. Worst double team I have EVER seen.

it wasnt a double team, he was admiring lebron's physique wile putting no pressure on him no hands up nothing. He literally just stood there as Lebron found the open man who scored after a head fake. It seems like he does not like basketball at all.

on the other hand, I see him never get the ball on the pick and rolls, but he was admittedly about 15 ft from the basket each time. Maybe Zeke tells them don't give him the rock unless he is 1 foot from the paint.

[Edited by - Killa4luv on 11-14-2006 10:09 AM]
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11/14/2006  10:11 AM
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Did anyone see Curry double team Lebron in the post when Marbury was guarding him? It was like Curry was in slow-mo moving over to the near side of the lane (for the TV viewers). Wow. Worst double team I have EVER seen.

it wasnt a double team, he was admiring lebron's physique wile putting no pressure on him no hands up nothing. He literally just stood there as Lebron found the open man who scored after a head fake. It seems like he does not like basketball at all.

on the other hand, I see him never get the ball on the pick and rolls, but he was admittedly about 15 ft from the basket each time. Maybe Zeke tells them don't give him the rock unless he is 1 foot from the paint.

agreed about this second part. I would like to see Curry and Frye work a little harder at sealing their man off in the post, but man, our PGs just don't know how to feed the post.
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11/14/2006  10:17 AM
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Curry 13 points on 9 shots with 7 rebs in 33 minutes isnt great but its not horrible. Curry did not win nor lose that game for us.

Big Z had 4 points on 5 shots with 7 rebs in 20 mins
Varejo had 6 points on 4 shots with 6 rebounds in 24 min

Lebron and Damon Jones destroying our guards/sf from the outside was what killed us. 48% shooting from 3 point land killed us.

Curry didn't lose the game for the Knicks but he could have won it for them.... by getting that extra rebound, by blocking out so someone else could have gotten it, but rotating over when he should have so others don't get an at-the-rim shot.


Martin you think its easy rebounding the ball vs the other team when Isiah goes with a 4 guard lineup? Those 4 guard lineups have killed us all season so Isiah decided lets go with a 5 guard lineup. His coaching rotations in critical situations are the worst Ive ever seen.

It doesn't bother Lee.

Look, I understand a situation where a Center is playing with 4 guards. That's overwhelming. I am talking about when Curry is out there and not blocking his man out, regardless of who else is on the court. Or when he just stands and watches the ball bounce off the rim instead of going at it agressively. I SEE THAT HAPPENING. That's not a factor of who else is out there with him. That's a factor of Curry's joy for the game. Marbury stole it!

1) lee didnt rebound any better than Curry last night.
2) lee should have been out there with Curry. Playing 4/5 guards in critical situations is insane
3) Curry should double harder in those situations but sometimes you just ask your bigs to "show" as a deterant to move the ball. It didnt work at all because Curry didnt show hard enough and because nobody rotated to pick up Varejo. Go figure with 4 guards on the floor nobody rotated to the open big. Who would have thought that? LOL
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/14/2006  10:43 AM
Most of you guys got what you want, but this is what Eddie Curry has been his whole career, even in Chicago. I am starting to think that his "Talent." is overrated.
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11/14/2006  4:42 PM
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