Why not lose them with Frank Williams getting a ton of minutes for him to get experience and to see what we have in him. At this rate he will be a rookie again next year and will make rookie mistakes in his second year instead of his 1st year. Lets lose games with Lee Nailon to see if he can learn and work on playing defense while he puts up great offensive numbers. Lets lose games with Lavor Postell showing his talent and exciting play-making, highlight reel ability and we can see what we have in him. The Knicks would be alot more exciting to watch with these guys getting major minutes and we can evaluate what we have in these three. It makes no sense to lose with boring veteran players like Othella,spoon,doleac,eisley,anderson etc..

I agree with you but I don't think the Knicks are in that position right now. When they're 20 games back and past the trade deadline in Februray, I'd think then you start to see them just throw in the rookies and feed them to the wolves since it won't matter, but now they're still staying competitive with good teams and still not totally out of it (even though we all know they really are).

Posted by Habernafi:

When you play in a big city it's kind of funny, cause although as knowledgable knicks fans know, the best thing to do right now is to play our stars (houston, spree, thomas) and rotate our rookies.

But according to management, the "right" thing to do is to play our stars and rotate only our veterans.

Now if God forbid, Chaney had any balls and management had any type of innovative thought, then they would realize that ...

#1 the average fan knows that we suck and that we aint amking the playoffs
#2 the average fan is sick of watching Ward/Eisley
#3 Nailon can make games a bit more fun to watch

more people would watch/attend games and they would make more money, which is their bottom line

do they actually think that by winning a few more games fans will actually attend more games thinking that it may be possible that theyll make the playoffs? i mean i am truly disgusted, this is worse then the late 80's early 90's days of stienbrenner and the yankees.

i think a lot more fans would appreciate some bold moves by management/Chaney then your average "by the book" lame attitude they got goin now.

true.

If the Knicks were going to give Frank Williams lots of time they would have drafted Hilario/Wilcox/Stoudemire. They have a plan and are sticking with it. You can lose your Credability as coach, with your players if you play the guys that are getting beat in practice. It also sets the bar for a player to work hard in practice and earnplaying time.

You can lose your Credability as coach, with your players if you play the guys that are getting beat in practice. It also sets the bar for a player to work hard in practice and earnplaying time.

Yeah i agree... but...

How much credibility does Chaney have? He's just a place holder.

Why not give Frank Williams one quarter a game just for a week? I mean they still haven't decided on who the real PG is, so why not just throw him in the mix? Worst that happens is they stink up a few quarters or lose a few games, best thing that could happen is that Frank amazes the **** out of us and one piece of the Knicks puzzle is solved.

First of all, have you folks been checking out the games, or are you just paying attention to stats. Postell, Frank williams, and Nailon have a host of flaws in there game. On top of that, not one of them (maybe Nailon) are exceptional good in one area. Postell is an erratic player, who has a hard time passing up a shot, reguardless of any situation. Frank Will, hasn't got a clue, and seems totally loss on the floor. Nailon is pathetic on the defensive end, Actually he is just to lazy, when it come to playing "D", because it has been a couple of sequences where he has look decent. But he fails to put that same amount of energy he does on offense, on defense. He's just a lazy defensive player like that part of the game doesn't matter to him. He's worse than RICE.

And I do not believe Fans will come see the knicks just to watch those three. I don't care who's on the floor. If your loosing, how much fun can that be. Knick die hards like some of us may tune in, but casual fans will have the least bit interest in a make shift lineup. And as much as I love the knicks, I don't think I'll be all that intriugue about watching a bunch of bench players perform blooper moments.

I don't think anyone here is saying just play them for the sake of playing them (okay, maybe some are, but most aren't.) We all know the Knicks stink, and we're all looking past this season. Since most of us have written this season off, we want to start getting ready for next season. It's still too early for that, though, no matter how bad the team is. You should never write off a season until you're at least past the halfway mark. Until then, you play the guys you are paying the big money (Houston, Spree, Eisley, Ward, Spoon, Anderson, Knight, Longley, Bogues - oh wait, maybe we're done paying Bogues now.)

Joking aside, even if the Knicks were 0-18, the scrubs would have to wait until the Knicks could not possibly make the playoffs. The fact that we all know they won't is irrelevant.

What about Berman's article on giving Charlie the heave-ho for the buy-out? This could happen in February and by then, the Knicks might know whether or not they would be in or out of the playoffs. Then you start the Eisley/Williams tandem. Or if a trade can be made by February - getting a big man for Charlie. Might work either way...

[Edited by - ukdad on 12/11/2002 10:31:47]