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the offense: what happened to it and how to fix it
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EnySpree
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11/7/2006  7:01 PM
In pre-season and summer league the knicks were flying. They were pushing the ball every single time. As soon as they got a rebound they were out. Even off an opponent basket they would inbound and shoot the ball up court. If the defense got back they would instantly get into their motion offense with back cuts and cross cuts, etc. What the hell happened?

The vets happened! its like as soon as the season the started the knicks forgot everything. Marbs, Francis, and craw are going one on one too much and taking terrible shots and not letting the ball go.

Q rich is pissed. You can clearly tell. That dude is back but he is frustrated by the lack of movement. Even on the break the three amigos just look to take it themselves with 3 other knicks running with them.

Watch balkman. Everytime balkman gets the defensive rebound that mofo is starting the break. Who is running with him? Its usually a delayed fast break that results in nothing and one of the three amigos holding onto the ball.

Mardy had good game but did you check the mentality? How many times did you are mardy attack that rim? Nothing forced he just is playing. No extra dribbling. Just playing the game. This rookie that had the deer in the headlights look all summer is already one of the headiest knicks on the team.

Another thing. Kenny akendale(sp?). No I don't think the knicks should call him. Anybody remember summer league when they were talking to isiah on the sideline? Isiah verbally talked through a play as it happened and said predicted a lay-up. "this should be a lay-up" and Kenny delivered the goods fairly easy. I'm bringing this up cuz the knicks don't have that type of player. Knicks don't need a pf that needs to be fed jumpshots to "get him off" that is counter productive to the offense isiah is trying to run.

Again with frye. What is he Allan Houston? Yeah his jumper is wet but if you are just trying to get him open then you are putting the knicks in an early hole. Frye is not Chris webber. Can he be? Why not but that dude is not built like webber. Do we have time to wait on frye to learn how to play his position? No. Frye regressed. He needs to play good everywhere not just this jumper.

Fixing this is a little more than a shotblocker. Knicks have cato on the bench. Knicks still aint winning.

Knicks are in a show me the money mode right now. Can the knicks just sit and wait? Sure but will that make frye grow a pair? Will that make the three amigos stop chucking and pass the ball? Probably not.

Trades can be made right now cuz the flaws are very clear. Still 4 games is too early. For isiah making an example out of the starters was not too early so why wouldn't a trade be too early? 10 games of this non-sense should make isiah pull the cord. That is early December.

Knicks need leaders. Curry is still not perfect but he is playing much improved so far. Q is the man. These guys need help. Jared will help but the knicks need a better sidekick for curry and a steady swing man type. To help Q. I already mentioned zach Randolph what about zach and miles? Losing jalen and taylors contracts suck right now but the knicks need to stablize themselves. I wish it was internally but may need to come from outside.

Isiahs offense works but the players namely frye, craw, Franbury are not. "you are guranteed millions but not minutes"? Something should pop off sooner rather than later.
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BasketballJones
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11/7/2006  8:10 PM
I think what happened is the regular season started. It was nice that the Knicks did well in preseason, but preseason is preseason.

I like Q this year. Curry has improved enough to justify his presense IMO. Mardy had a good stretch in the last game, but I think it's too early to tell about him. Nate has done what we expect of him - been a spark plug. David Lee is grabbing rebounds but needs to work on his D. Balkman looks raw but he's another energy guy.

I like the young guys on this team but they aren't enough. The rest of the team is totally uninspiring. I think Frye is capable of more but something's wrong with his body or his mind, or both.

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11/7/2006  8:22 PM
Posted by EnySpree:


Again with frye. What is he Allan Houston? Yeah his jumper is wet but if you are just trying to get him open then you are putting the knicks in an early hole. Frye is not Chris webber. Can he be? Why not but that dude is not built like webber. Do we have time to wait on frye to learn how to play his position? No. Frye regressed. He needs to play good everywhere not just this jumper.



Isiahs offense works but the players namely frye, craw, Franbury are not. "you are guranteed millions but not minutes"? Something should pop off sooner rather than later.


perhaps Brown was more a coach than he is given credit for 'roun NYC.
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EnySpree
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11/7/2006  10:29 PM
Posted by McK1:
Posted by EnySpree:


Again with frye. What is he Allan Houston? Yeah his jumper is wet but if you are just trying to get him open then you are putting the knicks in an early hole. Frye is not Chris webber. Can he be? Why not but that dude is not built like webber. Do we have time to wait on frye to learn how to play his position? No. Frye regressed. He needs to play good everywhere not just this jumper.



Isiahs offense works but the players namely frye, craw, Franbury are not. "you are guranteed millions but not minutes"? Something should pop off sooner rather than later.


perhaps Brown was more a coach than he is given credit for 'roun NYC.

Its not about brown its about frye. Nobody can coach frye how to not be a puss. Its either you got it or you don't. I really want zach Randolph. Portland is not gonna win with him right now cuz that team is young but zach on the knicks minus frye and a filler would be magnificant on the court.

I'm telling you. Zach Randolph needs to be a knick now before its too late. I think him and curry would mesh really well. Its a front line that would be very formidable. Who do you double? Who do you out the best post defender on? Its absolutely frightening. Randolph is gonna get 10 plus rebounds a night. Randolph can block shots too at times. I'm extreamly excited about it. Wish we could get it done.

Then the knicks can focus on the backcourt. Nate is the only guy earning his money.
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djsunyc
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11/7/2006  10:31 PM
if zach randolph becomes a knick, i will shoot isiah, then i will shoot you in the good knee.
martin
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11/7/2006  10:33 PM
both zach and curry are low post players, they don't mesh.
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EnySpree
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11/7/2006  10:51 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

if zach randolph becomes a knick, i will shoot isiah, then i will shoot you in the good knee.

Come on man not the good knee!

Zach is easy pickins. Knicks need a guy that can drop 20/10 in his sleep. Zach has his off the court troubles but on the court he is business and plays hard.

Frye can be good but the dude is looking like nothing. He doesn't have good post moves throug his hook is nice. He lacks a turn around and the ability to bang for tough rebounds. Its not gonna happen. I think the knicks should cut him loose now while he has value. He is not rugged and he may even be more suited for the center spot. Randolph is 20/10 money in the bank.

Randolph, Jared, curry with Q, lee, and balkman in the mix is a big upgrade. After that the knicks can work the league to find a real shooting guard.

That's how close the knicks are to being good.
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djsunyc
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11/7/2006  10:56 PM
that's it man, i'm shooting both knees and pouring a bag of salt on them.
EnySpree
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11/7/2006  11:02 PM
Posted by martin:

both zach and curry are low post players, they don't mesh.

What about brand and kaman? Randolph can do everything frye can except Randolph is 20/10 and is not a punk.

If its not a guy like Randolph then who? Who is good enough and attainable?
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11/7/2006  11:31 PM
Posted by EnySpree:
Posted by martin:

both zach and curry are low post players, they don't mesh.

What about brand and kaman? Randolph can do everything frye can except Randolph is 20/10 and is not a punk.

If its not a guy like Randolph then who? Who is good enough and attainable?

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11/7/2006  11:35 PM
I think Zach Randolph plays less defense than Frye and thats tough to do. The Knicks do NOT need another diva on this roster. Just say no to drugs - I mean Zach Randolph.
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11/7/2006  11:36 PM
I'd rather have KMart than Randolph. We don't need a scorer and Kenyon is much less of a headcase than Zachy boy.
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11/7/2006  11:39 PM
I'd rather have LB back. Im sure he'd be willing to slap Frye in the face.
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11/8/2006  12:17 AM
Posted by joec32033:

I'd rather have KMart than Randolph. We don't need a scorer and Kenyon is much less of a headcase than Zachy boy.


u know where i stand on KMart.
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