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nyk4ever
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11/7/2006  6:55 PM
http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/43135/20061107/brown_reportedly_received_between_$30_million_and_$35_million/

New York Daily News - Larry Brown and the Knicks reached an out-of-court settlement for an undisclosed amount on the eve of the NBA season. Brown was owed $40 million, but is believed to have received between $30 million and $35 million.

"In the press release they used the word 'arrangement,'" Gregg Popovich, who testified, said of the statement released by Stern. "Larry's not supposed to talk about it. I don't know any more than you do. I read the statement I'm not sure what arrangement means. I guess most reasonable people would think it means compromise of some sort. I just hope that is not dangerous for coaches."


Figured I'd post this for anyone who was interested. I won't say anything about Brown or anything because A) everyone knows my liking of Brown B) I don't feel like starting a flame war

Pop raises a good point though, what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
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11/7/2006  7:10 PM
total BS # pulled out the wazoo.
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11/7/2006  7:24 PM
yeah, just a guess. maybe a slightly informed one with a wink wink nod at someone who is close to one of the sides, but nothing more.
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11/7/2006  7:24 PM
I don't think anyone can say that Brown behaved professionally last season. He basically admitted to exagerating an illness to miss three games, he trashed his players in the media, he asked for players and then didn't use them, he created a chaotic atmosphere and he reportedly went behind his GMs back and offered different deals to the same teams his GM was dealing with. He didn't deserve the full value of the contract. And if this settlement was overseen by Stern, I don't see how anyone can question it. He's pretty impartial.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if that number was accurate. It's not like anyone can reveal sources on this one.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 07-11-2006 7:25 PM]
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11/7/2006  7:24 PM
Posted by djsunyc:

total BS # pulled out the wazoo.

I agree. The media has no credibility anymore.

However, I can give ranges too. Larry Brown was paid between $0 and $53 million.
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11/7/2006  7:55 PM
what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
That they actually have to live up to their contracts if they want to get paid
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11/7/2006  8:15 PM
Posted by wsdm:
what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
That they actually have to live up to their contracts if they want to get paid

you will have every owner saying that coaches aren't living up if they don't win... and then what?
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11/7/2006  8:24 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

I don't think anyone can say that Brown behaved professionally last season. He basically admitted to exagerating an illness to miss three games, he trashed his players in the media, he asked for players and then didn't use them, he created a chaotic atmosphere and he reportedly went behind his GMs back and offered different deals to the same teams his GM was dealing with. He didn't deserve the full value of the contract. And if this settlement was overseen by Stern, I don't see how anyone can question it. He's pretty impartial.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if that number was accurate. It's not like anyone can reveal sources on this one.

[Edited by - crzymdups on 07-11-2006 7:25 PM]

that about sums up what Brown has done his whole career.
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11/7/2006  8:53 PM
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11/7/2006  10:51 PM
Posted by wsdm:
what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
That they actually have to live up to their contracts if they want to get paid

I hope the same goes for these Knick players who have not earned a penny of their contracts, aside from a select few.
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11/9/2006  7:58 AM
Real GM is right on the money...

not.

did somebody say $18 M?

No big deal


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Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by wsdm:
what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
That they actually have to live up to their contracts if they want to get paid

I hope the same goes for these Knick players
That's a separate issue but I don't think anyone would disagree with you.

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11/9/2006  9:04 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by wsdm:
what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
That they actually have to live up to their contracts if they want to get paid

you will have every owner saying that coaches aren't living up if they don't win... and then what?

Martin this is disingenuous. You know as well as anyone here that LB's case isn't about poor performance on the job. There were very specific clauses in the contract which were broken, and we are not talking about job performance, we are talking about the violation of team policies which were explicity spelled out. Stern would have never done this if there weren't very clear violations on LB's part. Sos top trying to pretend that this is about how well the team did and what other owners will do when teams don't do well.


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11/9/2006  9:08 AM
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11/9/2006  10:13 AM
Posted by Killa4luv:
Posted by martin:
Posted by wsdm:
what does this mean for coaches if Larry didn't get his whole contract?
That they actually have to live up to their contracts if they want to get paid

you will have every owner saying that coaches aren't living up if they don't win... and then what?

Martin this is disingenuous. You know as well as anyone here that LB's case isn't about poor performance on the job. There were very specific clauses in the contract which were broken, and we are not talking about job performance, we are talking about the violation of team policies which were explicity spelled out. Stern would have never done this if there weren't very clear violations on LB's part. Sos top trying to pretend that this is about how well the team did and what other owners will do when teams don't do well.

I would agree with you that team policies may have been broken but that don't mean those team policies where in his contract and were binding. No one here has seen the contract (I double Dolan reads these boards).

For instance, no coach is gonna sign a contract saying that he cannot talk to the media in a bad way about a specific player. Dolan may try to institute a company policy that says the same thing, but that's entirely different than breaching something in a contract.
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