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Vmart
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12/5/2002  3:38 PM
Misuse of talent is what describes the Bulls the best. They have two 7 foot players who are young and they get no run. Curry and Chandler are both suppose to be averaging a double double by now but they seem to be going in the wrong direction. Anyone get the feeling that Bulls are purposely stunting their development. They have been in the league for 3 years and so far they haven't shown any upside yet. With only 15-20 minutes a game no wonder they are starting slow. When will the Bulls realize that the only way they are going to get better is if they are force fed shots on a consistent basis.
If I were the two players I would want out of Chicago and play somewhere where they will get run. Now if the Knicks could somehow get Curry out of there to play along side Spree and Dice on the front court. I wouldn't go so far to say that the Knicks offer KT and future number 1 pick for Curry. If the Knicks don't get the top 7 pick I would consider trading it for Curry or Chandler.

Their situation in a way reminds me of Pat Ewing and Cartwright they have to make a choice on one as they both are centers not PFs. It would be like the Oakley-Cartwright deal revisited.
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12/5/2002  3:55 PM
if you think they have not shown any upside, why trade kt and a #1 for either of them?

personally, i think chandler has more upside than curry, but i would not trade kt and our pick for him, only because our pick this year will be very high....

i would, however trade kt and spree for jalen and chandler.....but i would also like $10,000,000 to suddenly appear in my bank account, would not mind banging jennifer love hewit either.....none of the above appear to be happening anytime soon....

cant believe krause traded brand for chandler......damn
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12/5/2002  4:01 PM
Posted by spencerdoobie:

if you think they have not shown any upside, why trade kt and a #1 for either of them?

personally, i think chandler has more upside than curry, but i would not trade kt and our pick for him, only because our pick this year will be very high....

i would, however trade kt and spree for jalen and chandler.....but i would also like $10,000,000 to suddenly appear in my bank account, would not mind banging jennifer love hewit either.....none of the above appear to be happening anytime soon....

cant believe krause traded brand for chandler......damn

A protect first to 6 or 7, and KT as for the other thing 10,000,000 and JLH keep hope alive.

I do like the trade that you proposed though That would be a sweet deal. KT and Spree for Rose and Curry or Chandler.
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12/5/2002  4:58 PM
Lets be realistic its not going to happen. But if Chicago offered mr Chandler for KT and our #1 id grab it. Sure Kurt has value but KT is still out of position. Chandler at 7-1 is a good shot blocker with unlimited potential. People seem to forget Dyess will be back next year and Kurt will have to go anyway. I think it would never happen but the lineup would be:

Chandler
McDyess
Sprewell
Houston
Ward????

and thats a crazy lineup. Any real Knick fan would do it, and get off this Lebron stupidness.
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12/5/2002  5:29 PM
fritz, i agree. the only way you'd get chandler is by giving up a #1 and we'd be stupid to pass that up. I don't care if we have a lottery pick, if its not a top 5 pick, its worth it. And the other part, Chicago doesnt want spree plain and simple.
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12/5/2002  9:17 PM
Chandler won't be dealt. It'll be Curry. They aren't playing because Cartwright wants his job. Wins come at cost of developement. They have too many super-young talented players. Crawford, Curry, Robinson get no minutes know. They have to trade two of those guys for an established star. I think a Spree trade for them makes some sense. I would do Kurt and #1 for Chandler in heart beat. He's Camby with a bigger Frame and the makings of jumpshot. We might be too good to get Lebron this year... and I think the draft this year after Lebron will be weak.
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12/5/2002  10:38 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Lets be realistic its not going to happen. But if Chicago offered mr Chandler for KT and our #1 id grab it. Sure Kurt has value but KT is still out of position. Chandler at 7-1 is a good shot blocker with unlimited potential. People seem to forget Dyess will be back next year and Kurt will have to go anyway. I think it would never happen but the lineup would be:

Chandler
McDyess
Sprewell
Houston
Ward????

and thats a crazy lineup. Any real Knick fan would do it, and get off this Lebron stupidness.

get of this lebron stupidness? ha ha ha ha ha ha, that a joke, right?

please.......
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12/5/2002  10:43 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Lets be realistic its not going to happen. But if Chicago offered mr Chandler for KT and our #1 id grab it. Sure Kurt has value but KT is still out of position. Chandler at 7-1 is a good shot blocker with unlimited potential. People seem to forget Dyess will be back next year and Kurt will have to go anyway. I think it would never happen but the lineup would be:

Chandler
McDyess
Sprewell
Houston
Ward????

and thats a crazy lineup. Any real Knick fan would do it, and get off this Lebron stupidness.

ya, you are so right..........not.

lebron james is set to be the next big thing in the nba, to lose our chance at nabbing him is so ****ing stupid......even for a 7-1 center with as much of an upside as chandler (he's worked out well so far, huy big guy?)

we will finish with one of the 7 worst records in the league....you think the nba would like to see the next big thing in basketball play on the worlds biggest stage? ya, they would love it. i say we take our chances and let the cards fall where they may......now, if on draft night we end up with a low lottery pick, then i would pull the trigger, but until then, im dreaming of lebron, and you should be too.....any "real knick fan" should be
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12/6/2002  2:18 AM
I'm dreaming of any combination that equals winning...Let's do both - get a seven footer, lose some more and get a high pick, so we'll have a big man, Dice, and a new SF/SG/PG combo...

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12/6/2002  9:51 AM
I would rather see Lebron in NY then some overrated youngin who gets no run. At least we would have a bonified potential superstar on our hands - we can work from there.
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12/6/2002  12:04 PM
Lebron is the 1st pick. We probably wont get the 1st pick. A rookie wont turn this Francise around NOW. A rookie needs a few years to develop. Lebron is so unlikely for the Knicks.
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12/6/2002  12:12 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Lebron is the 1st pick. We probably wont get the 1st pick. A rookie wont turn this Francise around NOW. A rookie needs a few years to develop. Lebron is so unlikely for the Knicks.

First of all, the Cavs or any team for that matter are no more likely to win #1 then the Knicks are. Houston got it last year and they were not the worst team in the league. Orlando got it a year after they picked Shaq - and they had 1 ping pong ball I believe. And as far as Lebron turning this franchise around, I would rather see him grow in an NY Uniform and maybe be a superstar in 5-6 years then trade for some players on another team that will still take 3-5 years to turn this club around and will most likely never be superstars. Lebron is an amazing building block, 1 piece - but the cornerstone of a future that is very bright. You cannot say you wouldnt want him on this team.
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12/6/2002  12:45 PM
Where do people get this thing that rookies cant play? Im sorry but have you ever heard of players like Magic Johnson who in his FIRST year lead the Lakers to a championship and stepped up and played center and scored 42 points in the final?

Larry Bird ? you ever here of him? by the way these guys were early enterents into the NBA as well. i would trade ANY player on the Knicks right now for Yao Ming i would trade any TWO players for Yao Ming. I would TRADe ANy player other than Houston for Drew gooden Dujuan Wagner Amere Stoudemire in a second. these players ARE better than what we have NOW. WAY better and 10 years YOUNGER. Rookies who usually need extensive time to play at a high NBA level either are not getting PT[like jermaine oneal in portland] or they just stink like erick barkley william avery trajan langdon and a bunch of other POS. Frank williams could EASILY end up being another william avery he has no outside shot and he lacks athletic ability and quickness. We SHOULDVE taken Boozer there and quite frankly i was shocked why so many teams passed on him. I mean he was a 20-10 player who was 6-9 270 for a top three program. Hey I bet that Golden state WISHEs that it tok Boozer over their three pick Dunleavy.

I think the draft should ALWAYS be used for trying to go big unless there is a talent like wagner that you have to have. Chris Thomas will be a small player who has a high talent level worthy of a high pick -hes a Mike Bibby clone. But the reason you go big is that it is much easier finding a PG through free agency and you know what you are getting. Finding a PG in the draft is very much a crap shoot.

If you look at the top 10 players picked the 6-10 6-11+ post players have looked the best gooden nene wilcox amere and yao. then you have Caron Dujuan and than a MASSIVe drop off all the way down to Boozer. And if you look at the draft usually a top 7 pick wil end up being a very good player-and in most cases wil be able to contribute right away.
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12/6/2002  1:26 PM
Briggs don't forget Tim Duncan as well.

Lets not go overbaord with the Boozer predictions just yet. Boozer plays for a very very bad team. I have little doubt that the Warriors would not give up Dunleavy for Boozer. GS has a much deeper team, and will bring Dunleavy along much slower than the Cavs. Same with the Knicks and Fwill....not to mention that the point guard position is the hardest for a rookie to adjust to in the NBA, so give Fwill some time.
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12/6/2002  1:34 PM
Please tell me what position you would have a rookie at. Not C, not PF, not SF, not SG, not PG so where do u think a rookie will play. OFF THE BENCH, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.
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12/6/2002  1:37 PM
Getting back to the original post. Chicago should give the rookies 30+ minutes a game. Its obvious the team isnt going to be in the playoffs. Let the kids get expierence. If they think they are a lost cause at the end of the season, then trade one. Thats the best way to handle it.
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12/6/2002  3:14 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Please tell me what position you would have a rookie at. Not C, not PF, not SF, not SG, not PG so where do u think a rookie will play. OFF THE BENCH, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.
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12/6/2002  3:19 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Please tell me what position you would have a rookie at. Not C, not PF, not SF, not SG, not PG so where do u think a rookie will play. OFF THE BENCH, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.

if we get the # 1 pick and luck into Lebron, HE WILL PLAY RIGHT AWAY! And I dont care if he is a 2 or a 3 or a 19 or a 69, the man is going to be a star, even if it takes 3 or 4 years (most scouts say it wont take that long) it is well worth the wait. yes, our chances of getting the # 1 pick are slim, but so were san antonio's (duncan) and houston's (ming). actually, it is pretyy rare that the worst team ends up with the #1 pick, i say we take our chances. I WANT LEBRON!!!
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12/6/2002  4:38 PM
Posted by spencerdoobie:
Posted by falcindor:

Please tell me what position you would have a rookie at. Not C, not PF, not SF, not SG, not PG so where do u think a rookie will play. OFF THE BENCH, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.

if we get the # 1 pick and luck into Lebron, HE WILL PLAY RIGHT AWAY! And I dont care if he is a 2 or a 3 or a 19 or a 69, the man is going to be a star, even if it takes 3 or 4 years (most scouts say it wont take that long) it is well worth the wait. yes, our chances of getting the # 1 pick are slim, but so were san antonio's (duncan) and houston's (ming). actually, it is pretyy rare that the worst team ends up with the #1 pick, i say we take our chances. I WANT LEBRON!!!

I totally agree with you on the LeBron thing I want him on the Knicks in the worst way. I think this guy is going to be the one to finally get the Knicks the title. As for the dealing for Chandler or Curry I would give the number one protected to 5 and KT. I don't really think that there will be that many impact players after the five pick. I think that would be a steal for the Knicks if they were able to get it done.
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12/6/2002  5:23 PM
Posted by falcindor:

Please tell me what position you would have a rookie at. Not C, not PF, not SF, not SG, not PG so where do u think a rookie will play. OFF THE BENCH, PLEASE THINK ABOUT IT.

Here let me go down the list

Yao Ming is better than Kurt Thomas
Amare Stoudemire is better than Harrington
Drew Gooden is better than Latrell sprewell
Caron Butler is nowhere near as good as Allan houston but he is not swiss cheese
Dujuan wagner is better than all of our PGs combined


My team of
7-5 yao Ming
6-10 Amere stoudemire
6-10 Drew Gooden
6-7 Caron Butler
6-2 Dujuan Wagner

would destroy any combination of Knicks you put together
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