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Trailing 92-91 with 4:00 left, Marbury, who had made three straight rainbows in scoring nine points during the 20-2 run, could have put the Knicks in front for the first time since the second quarter in Atlanta last Friday. But he short-rimmed a 3-pointer and the Knicks were on their way to a "moral victory" not the actual victory they truly needed.

The Knicks also are on their way to meeting the low bar Thomas shockingly set at yesterday's morning shoot-around. Thomas predicted the Knicks could be as far as six games under .500 after November's rough 17-game schedule that features 10 contests on the road.

"We've prepared ourselves that if it gets pretty ugly, we understand what our schedule's like this November," Thomas said. "We might reach four, five, even six games under .500 going into December."

I appreciate Zeke's "honesty" (so as it seems), but I absolutely detest what he's being honest about. Our November is hard, we get it, but you do not go to the press and give another pre-installed excuse for us possibly being a half-dozen or more games in the hole comes 12/1.

I'm going to contradict myself now but I know Zeke lies to the media a lot. I'm sure this is not how he really feels and I'm hoping he not running this BS to the players. But in the press, he is just constantly coddling and pacifying bad behavior. No accountability is being shown nor does it truly seem like anyone is willing to accept any. I'm not saying he should be LB but don't insult my or my fellow Knicks fans' intelligence here.

My tolerance level is sinking and sinking by the day. I really want to believe in my squad but it gets more and more difficult after things like this.

"Yeah, we probably are gonna suck this month." I don't want to hear that from the head coach.

Seriously, what does it matter what he says in the press. Is this politics? No. He can say whatever he wants to the media as long as he doesnt rag on the team IMO. If you look at the schedule its tough. Before the preseason I thought we might go 6-11 for November. If he says that then thats fine. If he says we go 17-0 thats okay too. All I care about is what I see on the court, and im not liking it right now at all.