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Never Forget Marbury Said "I'm The Best"
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11/6/2006  1:00 PM
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This along with his statement of being the 3rd Person "Starbury is the reason he's being no longer tolerated.


For all the fans that think it's selfish, pointless, and a detriment to the team to Boo a player or the team needs to ask themselves this ?

Is it selfish for someone to call themself "The Best", when they clearly aren't?, does/has it accomplish anything, has their been any signs that the franchise is better since the statement was made?


I don't think any MLF's or fans affiliated with this sport took him seriously when he said it anyway. The main problem I have is that he isn't giving the team his best basketball during his PRIME yrs. His numbers are the worst of his career during his prime...... when players usually peak, go above and beyond with their play. It would be one thing if Marbury had his best and/or effecient, assisting, defensive, etc etc during his prime yrs here but it for surely isn't looking like it. Fans have to endure this while his contract balloons to insanity.

He can talk about how New Yorkers and MSG fans are all he wants. He can talk about how no one understands him and that he's been through tougher things in life all he wants. No one cares about any of it except go out on the floor, do your job and go win ball games. Because for most of his career his been Losing.

No one wants to have the media covering Marbury and Zeke all the time in regards to this ABYSMAL era because they can't get their act together.

Fans are looking toward the time that the TEAM is covered, centering around a winning culture.



[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-06-2006 12:10 PM]
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11/6/2006  1:07 PM
Why was the thread deleted? They should give you a valid reason for that. I commented in that thread.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/6/2006  1:08 PM
To answer your question Marbury has made many selfish statements in the past. But at some point you have to let it go.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/6/2006  1:09 PM
Just remember that Steph was responding to questions from the Media. He didn't just come out and pronounce himself the best for no reason. The Media was constently on his case about comparing himself to Kidd and he snapped. Then later when the Media asked him again he didn't back away from his statement, as I would expect anyone would do. We don't have to like his honesty but clearly that's how he feels and that's how MANY professional athletes feel about themselves. Steph is just one of the few to say it, but he's not the only one.

As far as his era here, he's had to endure changes in roster and coaching and with each there's a different focus on what they want him to do. Now that sounds like just an excuse, but VERY FEW players have been in a similar situation. I would like for some patience to be used in regards to this player and this team. I believe that in time Steph will adjust to this situation and perform better. I think the entire team will get better, but we have to allow them more than a few weeks of trying to change bad old habits. I like some of the things i've seen and once the players start to execute more consistently they'll improve. Steph is an easy target and he brings this on himself, but I believe he'll break out of this and the team will play much better.
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11/6/2006  1:14 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

To answer your question Marbury has made many selfish statements in the past. But at some point you have to let it go.


LOL No explanation is needed because I didn't expect that thread to last as long as it did.

Once again Benard you are focusing on the fact he's said dumb things but more importantly I'm tieing in what he's said with him playing his Best basketball during his PRIME yrs. Most people don't even feel he's a Top 10 point gaurd yet alone what he think or thought he was/is. The real issue is why isn't Starbury having his best yrs now?


Gary Freakin Payton is playing better than he is and he's 9yrs his senior.
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11/6/2006  1:16 PM
Steph is well past prime now, that's for sure.
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11/6/2006  1:20 PM
Posted by nixluva:

Just remember that Steph was responding to questions from the Media. He didn't just come out and pronounce himself the best for no reason. The Media was constently on his case about comparing himself to Kidd and he snapped. Then later when the Media asked him again he didn't back away from his statement, as I would expect anyone would do. We don't have to like his honesty but clearly that's how he feels and that's how MANY professional athletes feel about themselves. Steph is just one of the few to say it, but he's not the only one.

As far as his era here, he's had to endure changes in roster and coaching and with each there's a different focus on what they want him to do. Now that sounds like just an excuse, but VERY FEW players have been in a similar situation. I would like for some patience to be used in regards to this player and this team. I believe that in time Steph will adjust to this situation and perform better. I think the entire team will get better, but we have to allow them more than a few weeks of trying to change bad old habits. I like some of the things i've seen and once the players start to execute more consistently they'll improve. Steph is an easy target and he brings this on himself, but I believe he'll break out of this and the team will play much better.

As if he's the only player that's had to make major adjustments in his basketball career. Horrible excuse. I can list several point gaurds that have had to make several adjustments over the yrs that have done better given their situations

Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Sam 2SS 2LL
Gary Payton
Jason Terry
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11/6/2006  1:25 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

To answer your question Marbury has made many selfish statements in the past. But at some point you have to let it go.


LOL No explanation is needed because I didn't expect that thread to last as long as it did.

Once again Benard you are focusing on the fact he's said dumb things but more importantly I'm tieing in what he's said with him playing his Best basketball during his PRIME yrs. Most people don't even feel he's a Top 10 point gaurd yet alone what he think or thought he was/is. The real issue is why isn't Starbury having his best yrs now?


Gary Freakin Payton is playing better than he is and he's 9yrs his senior.

I believe a explanation is called for when a valid thread is deleted. You should ask why. I'm curious myself.
Marbs has made so many lame statements over the years that its not even worth bringing them up. I would place him above 6 pgs in the whole nba. Thats it.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/6/2006  1:28 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

To answer your question Marbury has made many selfish statements in the past. But at some point you have to let it go.


LOL No explanation is needed because I didn't expect that thread to last as long as it did.

Once again Benard you are focusing on the fact he's said dumb things but more importantly I'm tieing in what he's said with him playing his Best basketball during his PRIME yrs. Most people don't even feel he's a Top 10 point gaurd yet alone what he think or thought he was/is. The real issue is why isn't Starbury having his best yrs now?


Gary Freakin Payton is playing better than he is and he's 9yrs his senior.

I believe a explanation is called for when a valid thread is deleted. You should ask why. I'm curious myself.
Marbs has made so many lame statements over the years that its not even worth bringing them up. I would place him above 6 pgs in the whole nba. Thats it.

we are talking another site, right? We don't usually delete threads
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11/6/2006  1:30 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

To answer your question Marbury has made many selfish statements in the past. But at some point you have to let it go.


LOL No explanation is needed because I didn't expect that thread to last as long as it did.

Once again Benard you are focusing on the fact he's said dumb things but more importantly I'm tieing in what he's said with him playing his Best basketball during his PRIME yrs. Most people don't even feel he's a Top 10 point gaurd yet alone what he think or thought he was/is. The real issue is why isn't Starbury having his best yrs now?


Gary Freakin Payton is playing better than he is and he's 9yrs his senior.

I believe a explanation is called for when a valid thread is deleted. You should ask why. I'm curious myself.
Marbs has made so many lame statements over the years that its not even worth bringing them up. I would place him above 6 pgs in the whole nba. Thats it.

Benard who do you ask and who runs that board? Seriously if you feel it's redundant and played out then you gotta know they feel 1000x's more passionate than you about it.

[Edited by - SeatsBlue on 11-06-2006 12:35 PM]
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11/6/2006  1:33 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

To answer your question Marbury has made many selfish statements in the past. But at some point you have to let it go.


LOL No explanation is needed because I didn't expect that thread to last as long as it did.

Once again Benard you are focusing on the fact he's said dumb things but more importantly I'm tieing in what he's said with him playing his Best basketball during his PRIME yrs. Most people don't even feel he's a Top 10 point gaurd yet alone what he think or thought he was/is. The real issue is why isn't Starbury having his best yrs now?


Gary Freakin Payton is playing better than he is and he's 9yrs his senior.

I believe a explanation is called for when a valid thread is deleted. You should ask why. I'm curious myself.
Marbs has made so many lame statements over the years that its not even worth bringing them up. I would place him above 6 pgs in the whole nba. Thats it.

Benard who do you ask and who runs that board? Seriously if you feel it's redundannt an dplayed out then you gotta know they feel 1000x's more passionate than you about it.

Dont they pm you if the delete a thread? If not then just ask TKF or NLR via pm why it was deleted. They are good fair mods.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/6/2006  1:40 PM
That's a good post. We all know Marbury sucks and I'm actually sick of talking about him. Theres not much else to say, the guy will never change his ways for the betterment of his team and he excels playing with the ball in his hands in a non-team oriented offense.

With that said, I always enjoy reading a good Marbury diss post.
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11/6/2006  1:40 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

Steph is well past prime now, that's for sure.

He's 29 BlueSeats... Prime Yrs are 27-31 or 28-32.
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11/6/2006  1:44 PM
I already posted on another thread here that in my opinion Marbary style of play is not going to work when he became older.
He is relying on power moves to the basket and quickness.
He never had anything else in his arsenal and never had a head on his shoulders or trusted adviser to concentrate on other things like positional defence, smart passing, moving without the ball, looking for open people, etc.
He was and he is a single-dimentional player and this is not working well now when his strenghts are in the past.
LB was trying to send him a message but instead of listenning he freeked off.

He was the best peditraiting PG in the league - but who cares anymore...
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11/6/2006  1:48 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:

That's a good post. We all know Marbury sucks and I'm actually sick of talking about him. Theres not much else to say, the guy will never change his ways for the betterment of his team and he excels playing with the ball in his hands in a non-team oriented offense.

With that said, I always enjoy reading a good Marbury diss post.


LOL now I will say Steve Francis is looking like he's got some Prime left in him. I just don't understand how a player can't be at his peak at age 29.
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11/6/2006  1:53 PM
Guys primes are different. It depends on your type of game, injuries and how fast you slow down.
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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11/6/2006  1:54 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by nyk4ever:

That's a good post. We all know Marbury sucks and I'm actually sick of talking about him. Theres not much else to say, the guy will never change his ways for the betterment of his team and he excels playing with the ball in his hands in a non-team oriented offense.

With that said, I always enjoy reading a good Marbury diss post.


LOL now I will say Steve Francis is looking like he's got some Prime left in him. I just don't understand how a player can't be at his peak at age 29.

Marbury's played 80 games a year and 40 mpg since he was 19. He's probably played more minutes than average players' career lasts.
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11/6/2006  1:56 PM
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Steph is well past prime now, that's for sure.

He's 29 BlueSeats... Prime Yrs are 27-31 or 28-32.


I hear ya, but he's got a lot of miles on those legs and he's noting without 'em. arkrud has already said it all, but I will too. Without burst speed off his crossover he's not duping anyone, and without lift on his finishes he'd getting blocked and missing. His shooting and movement off the ball was never great, so he can't fall back on that, and he's got too little lateral and reverse quickness for defense. He doesn't see things happening before they happen, and he doesn't read defenses well unless they are collapsing on him, and his sense of tempo is middling to weak.

His best skills nowadays are slowing it down to lull the defense, then burst to collapse the D and passing off to an open shooter. But the less burst he has, and the less moves in his repertiore, the less the d needs to collapse - they can just wait for him on the right of the basket - and the less offense he provides and the less playmaking he offers.

This offense doesn't cater to his style and I don't see him able to adapt to it at a rate that is quicker then his deterioration. How fast can he become a spot up shooter? How quickly can he learn to feed the post or utilize the left side of the floor?

Sure, he's still got some good stretches in him, but his (2nd and 3rd string) all-star days are long behind him. He's fighting to stay in the starting lineup.
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11/6/2006  1:59 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:
Posted by SeatsBlue:
Posted by BlueSeats:

Steph is well past prime now, that's for sure.

He's 29 BlueSeats... Prime Yrs are 27-31 or 28-32.


I hear ya, but he's got a lot of miles on those legs and he's noting without 'em. arkrud has already said it all, but I will too. Without burst speed off his crossover he's not duping anyone, and without lift on his finishes he'd getting blocked and missing. His shooting and movement off the ball was never great, so he can't fall back on that, and he's got too little lateral and reverse quickness for defense. He doesn't see things happening before they happen, and he doesn't read defenses well unless they are collapsing on him, and his sense of tempo is middling to weak.

His best skills nowadays are slowing it down to lull the defense, then burst to collapse the D and passing off to an open shooter. But the less burst he has, and the less moves in his repertiore, the less the d needs to collapse - they can just wait for him on the right of the basket - and the less offense he provides and the less playmaking he offers.

This offense doesn't cater to his style and I don't see him able to adapt to it at a rate that is quicker then his deterioration. How fast can he become a spot up shooter? How quickly can he learn to feed the post or utilize the left side of the floor?

Sure, he's still got some good stretches in him, but his (2nd and 3rd string) all-star days are long behind him. He's fighting to stay in the starting lineup.

good summary of Steph.
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11/6/2006  2:01 PM
So he lied.
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