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Would you Trade Curry for Boozer?
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MS
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10/25/2006  2:47 PM
Would Utah go for this deal, I think it would make us a lot more dangerous and well balanced and give us a solid 4 and a good vetran presence, you can win with this Chicago tandem and it would allow the jaz to play AK47 at the four where he is most comfortable

Eddy Curry/Jamaal Crawford for Carlos Boozer and Derek Fisher

Outgoing
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 25.9 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
14.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.8 apg in 32.3 minutes
Incoming
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 31.1 minutes
Derek Fisher
6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock
13.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg in 31.6 minutes

Starting Lineup

Frye/James
Boozer/Lee
Jefferies/Balkman
Q/Francis/Nate
Marbury/Fish
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10/25/2006  2:49 PM
Posted by MS:

Would Utah go for this deal, I think it would make us a lot more dangerous and well balanced and give us a solid 4 and a good vetran presence, you can win with this Chicago tandem and it would allow the jaz to play AK47 at the four where he is most comfortable

Eddy Curry/Jamaal Crawford for Carlos Boozer and Derek Fisher

Outgoing
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 25.9 minutes
Jamal Crawford
6-5 SG from Michigan
14.3 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.8 apg in 32.3 minutes
Incoming
Carlos Boozer
6-8 PF from Duke
16.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.7 apg in 31.1 minutes
Derek Fisher
6-1 PG from Arkansas-Little Rock
13.3 ppg, 2.6 rpg, 4.3 apg in 31.6 minutes

Starting Lineup

Frye/James
Boozer/Lee
Jefferies/Balkman
Q/Francis/Nate
Marbury/Fish

Yes but not for that trade it's ridiculous. Fisher is a gunning high paid combo gaurd that's older and has IMO, a worse contract than Jamal givin the talent. Besides Utah would never want Curry under any circumstances.
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10/25/2006  2:49 PM
Tough one. I like Boozer. I just might, his defense isn't so great, but he can score and rebound with anybody.

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10/25/2006  2:52 PM
One of the worst trade scenarios I've seen on this (hater) site. Surprised you didn't throw in Lee & Frye.
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10/25/2006  2:54 PM
Why is that trade that terrible

Curry brings what the team looks terrible with him out there?

Crawford can score and thats about it, what does he really bring to the table other than a few game winners when we were never in the playoffs.

Its addition by subtraction
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10/25/2006  2:54 PM
Posted by purple012870:

One of the worst trade scenarios I've seen on this (hater) site. Surprised you didn't throw in Lee & Frye.

Wanna give your opinion on with this is a bad trade idea instead of just flaming?

Also, if you don't like this site than don't read it.

[Edited by - nyk4ever on 10-25-2006 2:58 PM]
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10/25/2006  2:57 PM
Fish mentioned this a few days ago, I thought he made a thread about it...

Anwyay, I would love to Boozer on the Knicks but not for both Curry AND Crawford. I think playing him at the 4 and Channing at the 5 would be a much better starting lineup for the Knicks since it would give them a ferocious rebounder in Boozer who can also score inside. This trade would allow Frye to move to the 5 where I think he would much better suited playing on both ends of the ball.

I'm not sure if the Jazz would do this, Sloan is a no-nonsense type of guy and I'm not sure he wants to deal with a player like Curry who has more ups and downs than the stock market.
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10/25/2006  3:00 PM
you get rid of an extra year with both of the two players when they are being paid over market, because you look at the situation doesn't mean your a hater.

God i can't stand Isiah supporters this team ****ing has no direction, Curry is not a valuable piece he can't defend, rebound, and is turnover prone and overweight and didn't improve at all in the most pivotal point in his career.

I would move these guys for anything you threw at me, if you think there is a better deal out there for two players like them lay it on me
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10/25/2006  3:04 PM
no way... the only way i trade Curry for Boozer is if Ronnie Brewer is coming with him in the deal, & even then i'd have reservations... forget about adding Jamal into that deal... Derek Fisher's garbage.

[Edited by - TMS on 10-25-2006 3:04 PM]
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10/25/2006  3:04 PM
Gotta give Eddy more time.

Isiah sold the store for the kid and he warrants more work.

IM not ready to move on from eddy yet.

Eddy is the franchise.
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10/25/2006  3:26 PM
I would trade Curry for Boozer straight up (maybe we throw in Collins (and whatever other players are needed to balance out the contracts) but that is it. Curry and Crawford for Boozer and an old Fisher is not a good deal IMO. Crawford is a solid player that has improved his defense and scores in the clutch. We should not just give him away. If Boozer defended like KG and could score 22+ points a game, then maybe, but Boozer does not block any shots and is only an average defender. He is a good rebounder but we need rebounding, defense, and blocked shots from our PF/C. I would not give up Curry and Crawford for a PF that will be only part of the solution.
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10/25/2006  3:27 PM
The trade is bad, cuz you don't just pop a 6'8" PF in and assume that he's gonna have the same effect on your team that a 6'11" 285lb C does. Curry warps the opposing teams defense. They HAVE to pay extra attention to him. He makes the floor more open for other guys on our team. Boozer wouldn't do any of that. It's not just the stats, but how a player effects the way you play and how teams have to play you. Even when Curry has an off night his mere presence still causes teams to have to pay attention to him, cuz he's too big and capable inside. It's Shaq and then Curry in terms of FG% and teams always have to be aware of his presence.
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10/25/2006  3:33 PM
I would trade frye for boozer before curry. Frye still has time to grow but he just doesn't being the balls like lee. Curry looks great when he gets going. Moving towards the basket he is tough. His post game is coming along too but he still gets caught up in the annoying charging fouls.

Any rate knicks need a boozer. We may already have that in David Lee. Still boozer a good scorer inside.
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10/25/2006  3:35 PM
The trade is bad, cuz you don't just pop a 6'8" PF in and assume that he's gonna have the same effect on your team that a 6'11" 285lb C does. Curry warps the opposing teams defense. They HAVE to pay extra attention to him. He makes the floor more open for other guys on our team. Boozer wouldn't do any of that. It's not just the stats, but how a player effects the way you play and how teams have to play you. Even when Curry has an off night his mere presence still causes teams to have to pay attention to him, cuz he's too big and capable inside. It's Shaq and then Curry in terms of FG% and teams always have to be aware of his presence.

I understand what you are saying. However, my thinking is that if Utah was willing to give up Boozer (who is still fairly young) why hang on to Curry. Boozer is worthy of a high-first round pick so if you give Curry to get Boozer you are not losing that much face. Plus, Frye can move to center where I think he will be more effective and Boozer can start at the PF spot. Marbury, Francis, JJ1, Boozer, and Frye to me is a solid and more complete starting lineup offensively and defensively. Boozer is not a great defense but he at least plays defense, which is something I still question whether Curry knows how to do.
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10/25/2006  3:43 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

I would trade frye for boozer before curry. Frye still has time to grow but he just doesn't being the balls like lee. Curry looks great when he gets going. Moving towards the basket he is tough. His post game is coming along too but he still gets caught up in the annoying charging fouls.

Any rate knicks need a boozer. We may already have that in David Lee. Still boozer a good scorer inside.

agreed... i'd sooner trade Frye for Boozer than Curry... a Curry/Boozer frontcourt would actually be very imposing... 1 of the more physical offensive frontcourts in basketball... Frye's a poor defender so Boozer would probably be an improvement if anything... still, i'd want someone like Ronnie Brewer coming over in the deal.
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10/25/2006  3:44 PM
NYK4EVER - You want a "why" behind my assertion of that being a bad deal. Here goes:

You want to trade a 6'11" 285 lb 23 year old Center for a 6'8" (good for the most part, but somewhat plodding, injury prone guy who hasn't developed the best reputation lately with either team he's played for) when we have Lee & Frye playing the 4 already? Then you want to take on another one dimensional gun like Fisher - who isn't even that good at being a gunner. And trade Crawford, who I believe is our best all around guard...but he's certainly a lot better than Fisher.

That's just horrendous.
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10/25/2006  3:49 PM
Posted by purple012870:

NYK4EVER - You want a "why" behind my assertion of that being a bad deal. Here goes:

You want to trade a 6'11" 285 lb 23 year old Center for a 6'8" (good for the most part, but somewhat plodding, injury prone guy who hasn't developed the best reputation lately with either team he's played for) when we have Lee & Frye playing the 4 already? Then you want to take on another one dimensional gun like Fisher - who isn't even that good at being a gunner. And trade Crawford, who I believe is our best all around guard...but he's certainly a lot better than Fisher.

That's just horrendous.

Thats better.
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10/25/2006  3:50 PM
At the moment, I wouldn't do anything major. I just want to make this team go out & make us all forget about the Larry Brown experience.

But the Frye, Crawford for Boozer, Brewer deal has a little more sense to it.
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10/25/2006  3:58 PM
You trade anyone on the Knicks frontcourt for Carlos Boozer. If anyone said they wouldn't, you deserve everything you get.
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10/25/2006  4:04 PM
If you trade Curry for Boozer, you end up with the Layden roster (37 - 6'8" power forwards on the squad).
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