i would be remissed if i didn't mention curry's lower the shoulder and boom move that marv is so fond of.

for the price we paid for jeffries, we could've signed jackie AND trevor.

Posted by islesfan:

A different JJ is taking Butlers spot. And Ariza is and always was useless. I'd rather have Jefrries over that delusional dude.

you do realize you just said something positive about the knicks? whether or not you meant to?

cool



i thought frye looked better toward the end of the game, contesting shots without committing fouls, causing a few misses. i've seen enough of his J so far including this preseason that i'm not too concerned. frye or curry would be a great piece surrounded by complementary players. i guess you could say that for most knicks, though.

[Edited by - Masterplan on 10-25-2006 01:02 AM]

Posted by Silverfuel:

Play Lee next to Curry? I think the real problem is Curry. I think Frye plays well on both ends when he plays next to Lee. What a bust the Curry move is turning out to be.

you touched on something I have been harping about for awhile about Frye... he's not a PF and doesnt play well there. He's not athletic enough and his slow feet get him killed on D. He is tough though and does better when he can push and shove a little more. I think a big part of the reason Frye plays well next to Lee is he's at center and not PF.

I think the best bet is to start smaller with Curry/Lee/Q/Francis/Marbury.
Q/Francis/Lee are all good rebounders, so I think we can survive there. Then Frye/Crawford become the first guys off the bench. I see no reason Frye cant get 30 minutes a night playing backup C and PF.

I like Frye, but he not a PF. If you look at his #'s last year you can see he was much MUCH better at C than at PF. He played there for 4 years @Arizona. He's 6'11 and 260+
Its not like he's KT

Frye and Curry will easily put up 90 points and 53 rpg. I heard it on the all-kool-aid radio station.

Okay, back to reality. Again, Fish is right on the money (as usual). To put it nicely, we're going to have some issues if those two are our C and PF. They might pad the stat sheet in one category (points, and by pad, I mean they might combine for 30). Aside from that, medicore defense, mediocre rebounding and mediocre passing should make for an interesting game. I want to see how we do in the first 10 and then we'll see if there's some hope for thsi frontcourt. If that fails, I agree with some of the others, I want Lee starting.

Posted by Masterplan:

Posted by islesfan:

A different JJ is taking Butlers spot. And Ariza is and always was useless. I'd rather have Jefrries over that delusional dude.

you do realize you just said something positive about the knicks? whether or not you meant to?

cool



i thought frye looked better toward the end of the game, contesting shots without committing fouls, causing a few misses. i've seen enough of his J so far including this preseason that i'm not too concerned. frye or curry would be a great piece surrounded by complementary players. i guess you could say that for most knicks, though.

[Edited by - Masterplan on 10-25-2006 01:02 AM]

I thinnk so far Fry and Curry are in fact compliment players.
Unfortunately we have nothing to compliment up front.
They still have some probability to became legit starters especially Fry. But this will take 2-3 more years to know if this is the case.
In general current Knicks roster is guard dominated and front court players will play compliment role anyway.
I think it will be always the case when former player are building the team. IT knows the guard position better so he is fishing for guards with more success. He knows nothing about big man so he is getting nothing but mistakes there.

I go back to something I said last season. Start Frye and Lee over Curry. Frye has the motivation, rebounding ability(apparently), and stamina that Curry doesn't.

And before we then argue about trade value-other GM's do notice this 23 yr. old can't play 30 mins. per game. Make Curry finally EARN the starting spot that has been given to him on a silver platter for the past 5 years.

And if not, worst case scenario we have a 24 yr old center with 3 yrs(roughly) left on his contract at a reasonable(for the position and his production when compared to guys like Foyle and Jerome and Dampier) $9 mil to use as a trade chip. We may not be able to get what we gave up but I am sure GM's will give up at the very least a first rounder given Curry's potential.