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Outlook after 2 pre-season games: Isiah's Coaching Strategy, Increased Hustle, Curry
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PresIke
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10/15/2006  3:38 PM
First of all it was interesting to see in the Philly gme thread how some were ringing the death knull after what seemed like the team struggling by saying that "roster moves" were being made during the first half of a pre-season game that wasn't even being televised.

Guys...it's PRE-SEASON, and some sound like they're ready to have a heart attack already. I know the past few years have been awful, and plenty of reason to be pessimistic, but I'd like to see what this team is capable of under Isiah as coach, and thus far, it is already looking like there are changes and encouraging signs.

After watching the first game and reading the past few NY Times article, including today's, there is the beginnings of some evidence to suggest that Isiah's coaching is having a positive effect on this team. In fact it appears that his strategies are directly addressing the very issues and criticisms many outside observers have consistently noted as concerns.

1) Build up team confidence and unity, while improving technical weaknesses.

A NY Times article from last week mentioned one day in training camp where they couldn't leave practice until the team hit 10 free throws in a row. They came close a few times, and were frustrated, as well as berated by Isiah saying "How do you expect to win in the N.B.A. if you can't make free throws?" Eventually they were able to and there was a small celebration displayed by some players.

2) De-Emphasize Ball Dominance By Guards

Today's NY Times discusses how Zeke wants to de-emphasize ball dominance from the guards, which is in direct relation to the criticism of Marbury, Francis and Craw especially. He said why not have 5 guys with 3 assists instead of one guy with 15, and that in "Old School" ball this was the norm. Of course, that's a bit of an oversimplification, but the point is taken. So far, players are buying in, and if it results in wins, I think one can expect to see it be accepted over the long haul, as well as gradually nullify potential weaknesses of our best players.

This also means more ball movement via quick cuts and crisp passes, as Isiah outlined as well and the team has displayed in the first game at least.

3) Increased Hustle.

Guys like Balkman and Jeffries have already added hustle play, and when you throw in Lee and an improved Q and Nate you have 5 guys who are known for putting in the extra effort. You saw it in the game against the Nets when Lee and Balkman were out there with Nate and there was a lot of good play on defense. This could prove to be quite beneficial.

4) Curry

If Eddy can play like he did yesterday then we are going to be in good shape. Of course, how consistent will that play be, and how will he do against tougher competition down low are BIG question marks, but we can see that if he avoids foul trouble he can be a big pain for the opposing team. His numbers are VERY Shaq-esque, but I have just as much concern that he won't be consistent as we would like so it remains to be seen.

Interestingly, thus far it has been a variety players in each game who have galvanized the team. In game 1 Frye looked REALLY GOOD to me. I LOVED some of the post moves I saw, and was quite impressed with the development. Q also impressed with his shooting and overall play in game 1 as well as Balkman, Jeffries & Lee.

Yesterday it was vintage Jamal with a strong overall game and another game winning shot (I didn't know that HE LED THE NBA IN GAME WINNING SHOTS LAST YEAR WITH 6, BTW), Curry's dominating stat line, and strong games (apparently) from Nate and Lee again.

Conclusion.

This all being said it is VERY early to make any strong judgements, because if the team starts loosing early on, we could see problems that haunted the team last year quickly rise to the surface, causing the team to implode. However, I do think that any presumption that we will be as bad as last year is starting to look a bit less likely, as long as the team remains focused on buying into what Isiah is selling. If not it could be 2005-06 part deux.

[Edited by - PresIke on 10-15-2006 3:38 PM]
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10/15/2006  4:15 PM
Knicks will play well and get more wins this year, it may be rough in the first 15 to 20 games. The Knicks having the ball in everybody's hands will be a good thing. I expect Curry to average 15 to 17 pts and 6 boards a game, he'll have a breakout game from time to time but probably won't be consistent. Block shots will have to come from Jeffries, Frye, Balkman and maybe Lee. The guys will have more fun, team chemistry will grow and the Knicks will be an improved team.
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10/15/2006  4:38 PM
they will show the improvement necessary to ensure Isiah get's an extension of his duties as both GM (he brought them all in) and Coach.
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10/15/2006  5:00 PM
right now knicks on a roll and i hope fans can appreciate the win situation. beyond that, its one day at a time.
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10/15/2006  5:14 PM
I'm looking for 43 wins this season. 43-39
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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10/15/2006  6:04 PM
Posted by Travla:

Knicks will play well and get more wins this year, it may be rough in the first 15 to 20 games. The Knicks having the ball in everybody's hands will be a good thing. I expect Curry to average 15 to 17 pts and 6 boards a game, he'll have a breakout game from time to time but probably won't be consistent. Block shots will have to come from Jeffries, Frye, Balkman and maybe Lee. The guys will have more fun, team chemistry will grow and the Knicks will be an improved team.
Curry will get more than 6 rbs unless he's only playing 24 mpg.

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10/15/2006  6:32 PM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

I'm looking for 43 wins this season. 43-39


You know, 43 wins would have gotten us 5th seed in the east last yr.
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10/15/2006  8:13 PM
exactly...I'm banking on doubling the win total.

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Posted by newyorknewyork:
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

I'm looking for 43 wins this season. 43-39


You know, 43 wins would have gotten us 5th seed in the east last yr.

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10/16/2006  9:22 AM
I was pretty disapointed with a lot of what i saw from the knicks in their first two games, both team were playing without some of their best players and we were at full strength.

What I didn't like:
Francis
He was such a pointless addition his jump shot is just awful and he isn't the player he was off the dribble, I am not a Crawford fan, but he already does the things that Francis does with a better attitude.
Curry
He is such a waste of talent and size its scary, he had a good game against the sixers but they didn't have Webber or Sammy, he is out of shape, still doesn't rebound well and continues to lower his head and pick up pointless offensive fouls
Jefferies
If I am going to spend 60 million dollars on a player they better be able to do a lot more than a player I took on 20 million dollars to get in Balkman, they do basically the same thing, yes he can guard a few more positions but was he really worth it, I say no

Good

I was excited what I saw from the second unit

Crawford and Richardson
These two look great together and I really like the lift we get off the bench from Crawford. That is where he should be ala Starks instant O off the bench. Q looks a little lighter on his feet which i think is a Great thing, I would like to see him drop a few more pounds, hopefully his jumper comes.

Lee and Frye
I liked what I saw better from Lee, and its very apparent that Channing doesn't have the athletic ability at the four and would be perfect at the center position, with his ability to take the big out of the lane. The uptempo these two brings at the 4-5 is terrific

Balkman
He was very active and if Zeke is smart he plays him with lee on a consistent basis very good out there. If Zeke could just draft and do nothing else this team would have been in great shape for the future

I am still on the fence to exactly what Nate brings and I still very dissapointed the Zeke the fool that he is allowed the Nets to solidify their team with a pg; sometime the best move is keeping players away from conference rivals....that kid would have been a big upgrade at the pg spot.
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10/16/2006  9:23 AM
we were at full strength?
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10/16/2006  9:25 AM
also, while you keep saying $60 million for a player, he's still a $5 mill a year player. So to act like he's making $10 million a year is absurd.

No matter who we sign, it's going to be inflated, but in the end, he's only getting $5 million a year.

So, for $5 mill a year, he's a great backup, let alone cheap starter.
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10/16/2006  9:40 AM
In reality when you are estimating costs you need to factor in the luxury tax, especially when the gm makes trades to get picks.

Is it not fair to say that since Jalen is not going to be in the rotation, Zeke effectively got a second round player, whom we like for over 20 million dollars. It is the truth.....

Isiah invested a lot of money in Richardson, and Rose is in that discussion, but the organization said they would be showing fiscal restraint by not give Butler a two year deal at about 4 million and then signed JJ.

So you factor in what the deal is costing you against the luxury tax. If you were running a business where money is important would you sign someone that give you minimal production and a little bit of defense if it meant his contract was going to cost you double. Probably not......

And how were we not at full strength, we didn't have Big Snacks a huge part of our rotation
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10/16/2006  9:43 AM
I think that's just twisting, but if that is the measuring stick you are going by, so be it.

not signing butler had nothing to do with fiscal responsibility.

I'd prefer a more versatile JJ who will put up better numbers (probalby twice as valuable) than butler will EVER put up.

IMHO, if you are going to pay a luxary tax, you should be able to use the player in different roles on the team.

But hey, you want to keep harping on that stuff go ahead.
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Outlook after 2 pre-season games: Isiah's Coaching Strategy, Increased Hustle, Curry

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