I know it was one game but you don't need to see more than that to understand what's going on here.

Isiah describes it as having a push man. I love that too.

If you saw last nights game everybody that got the rock started the break at least once. Lee, Richardson, balkman, Jared, all led the break at least once aside from the guards. It looked great.

Bringing me to Marcus Williams. How come the knicks are the stupid ones for not taking him when 19 teams passed on him that actually needed a point guard? The knicks currently have 4 guys that are supposed to be point guards. Marcus Williams probably is better that all of the knicks guard as far as passing but that's in a point guard dominated offense. Knicks right now don't have a point guard dominated offense. If anything the knicks play like themselves. The knicks hardly took an outside jumper. Most of the points were in the paint.

Stop saying the knicks are suns East. I think before long the knicks will be copied. Right now I think the knicks are a unique team. With no point guard.

I will repeat what Zeke has already explained. We have marbury, Francis and Crawford, who are all about the same size. We needed a big guard and now we have one. He is also a future defender is what we also needed. He is a better rebounder, can see over the opposing guards (unless there's one bigger than he) and is a good passer, as well as a good ball handler. I know I heard he was nothing last night, but he's a rook and he needs time to fit in. But that's pretty much the story from Zeke. Let's also remember, this kid got a good head on his shoulder's, so he'll grow, don't you worry about that. Big talented guards are hard to come by and Zeke got us a good one for the near future.

Posted by Panos:

First of all, not only do the Knicks have a PG, they'll be starting 2 in the starting line up.
Second of all, I think all the fury revolving around Isiah's not selecting Williams centered around not getting good value with the pick. That Balkman was going to be available later, so why not pick Williams and Balkman, instead of Balkman and Collins. Or trade down and get some other value in return. The only debattable point is if you believe that Pheonix was going to take Balkman before 29, as Isiah claims, or if it was just a smokescreen. Personally, even without picking Williams, I think there was lots of other talent that could have been selected at 20, and Balkman still picked up at 29.

At this point its a little late for this discussion (or early, until we see the real NBA performance of these players). All I'll be preying for is that Chicago suffers some catastrophic chemistry problem and ends up in the lottery, so we don't end up picking something like 25th next year. :(

Whatever the bulls record ends up being, we have to try to match it so the bull crap don't get a good pick, when they trade it with us. And second, I still say it was good to get Collins, the BIG guard.

1st and second of all I already said the knicks have 4 so called point guards on the team.

I hate restating stuff. The knicks played yesterday and they played without a traditional point like the nets were. Yeah the knicks ace point guards but they weren't dominating like Nash would or how Marcus Williams was. Its totally different. Did you notice that?

Posted by joec32033:

Posted by EnySpree:

4949 I get that you are talking about Collins but Collins is a 29th pick. Collins was good at temple, but he is not a super rookie like balkman or the rookies we got last year. I thought Collins should have went at our 20 and was excited we still got him at 29 but I already admitted Collins is a bum.

Still you just trying to be negative. Do you even have an opinion to what the tittle thread is about?

Eny, when did Balkman become a super rookie?

Yesterday! Duh!

we need a true pg in the worst way

Posted by EnySpree:

I know it was one game but you don't need to see more than that to understand what's going on here.

Isiah describes it as having a push man. I love that too.

If you saw last nights game everybody that got the rock started the break at least once. Lee, Richardson, balkman, Jared, all led the break at least once aside from the guards. It looked great.

Bringing me to Marcus Williams. How come the knicks are the stupid ones for not taking him when 19 teams passed on him that actually needed a point guard? The knicks currently have 4 guys that are supposed to be point guards. Marcus Williams probably is better that all of the knicks guard as far as passing but that's in a point guard dominated offense. Knicks right now don't have a point guard dominated offense. If anything the knicks play like themselves. The knicks hardly took an outside jumper. Most of the points were in the paint.

Stop saying the knicks are suns East. I think before long the knicks will be copied. Right now I think the knicks are a unique team. With no point guard.

if we had a franchise player, like a superstar, then maybe a quintessential pass first offensive orchestrator may not be necessary. but this team desperately needs a guy to lead on the court and run the offense, especially when teams begin to go on runs and we need to settle it down and not panic.

since we don't have a superstar player, then we need a pg to get everyone involved and to lead. this offense is in place b/c we don't have a leader and a guy to get everyone involved. look at the 4th quarter for memphis and atlanta. we got stifled and went 1 on 1.

I still stand by what I said. The knicks keep getting into trouble cuz they just stop running the offense. When the ball is being pushed and when guys are moving their bodies and the ball in the half court the knicks are good.

Francrawbury have sucked. They all are pressing. Just like frye. Its those 4 guys that are screwing up.

I think things will sort themselves out or there will be trades. Hopefully the right trades.

Although defense (Front and backcourt) should be the number 1 priority, the Knicks really need a few things on the offense. Obviously it would be nice to have a pure point guard, but I think something else we need is a consistent go to player we can run the offense through. Someone reliable. It doesn't have to be a PG. It can be any position. But yes, other than that, we need a good decision making guard who's not gonna turn the ball over and make terrible decisions down the stretch.

With that being said, the defense is still the main priority. We need stoppers and shotblockers!

Posted by Allanfan20:

Although defense (Front and backcourt) should be the number 1 priority, the Knicks really need a few things on the offense. Obviously it would be nice to have a pure point guard, but I think something else we need is a consistent go to player we can run the offense through. Someone reliable. It doesn't have to be a PG. It can be any position. But yes, other than that, we need a good decision making guard who's not gonna turn the ball over and make terrible decisions down the stretch.

With that being said, the defense is still the main priority. We need stoppers and shotblockers!

Knicks definately need the stuff you say. Its just who?

Ray Allen would be nice but Seattle probably are thinking like us and will keep ray.

As far as defense? Kenyon is healthy. Can't really think of anyone else.

Frye, marbs, fran, and craw are all fair play but for who?

Posted by EnySpree:

Posted by Allanfan20:

Although defense (Front and backcourt) should be the number 1 priority, the Knicks really need a few things on the offense. Obviously it would be nice to have a pure point guard, but I think something else we need is a consistent go to player we can run the offense through. Someone reliable. It doesn't have to be a PG. It can be any position. But yes, other than that, we need a good decision making guard who's not gonna turn the ball over and make terrible decisions down the stretch.

With that being said, the defense is still the main priority. We need stoppers and shotblockers!

Knicks definately need the stuff you say. Its just who?

Ray Allen would be nice but Seattle probably are thinking like us and will keep ray.

As far as defense? Kenyon is healthy. Can't really think of anyone else.

Frye, marbs, fran, and craw are all fair play but for who?

Aren't you contradicting yourself by agreeing that we need a guard who makes good decisions and doesn't turn the ball over? Last I checked, that's a PG.