Posted by crzymdups:

this is ridiculous. Frye, Lee, Curry and Craw are going to see a ton of time and going to see a ton of open looks created by Marbury and Francis.

for one thing, there is NO ONE else in the front court anymore - we have Frye, Lee, Curry, Jefferies and JJ and Malik are injured. The kids will play and they'll see the ball plenty.

Posted by nixluva:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by crzymdups:

this is ridiculous. Frye, Lee, Curry and Craw are going to see a ton of time and going to see a ton of open looks created by Marbury and Francis.

for one thing, there is NO ONE else in the front court anymore - we have Frye, Lee, Curry, Jefferies and JJ and Malik are injured. The kids will play and they'll see the ball plenty.

For argument's sake let's say they get a ton of open looks. Curry gets a lot of lay-ups off great passes from Marbs and Francis. Is this what we want? Maybe it is. Maybe we brought him here to be a role player. Silly to give up that much for a role player but maybe we did. If he is truly our franchise guy would it make sense to feature him in the offense so he can learn? Or does it make sense to use him as a role player until Marbs and Francis leave the team and then start to feature him?

What's wrong with Curry simply fitting into the gameplan? Why do you have to make it a negative thing. Even in PHX Amare has to sometimes just deal with the fact that the Offense they run will leave him in the back as it races down and scores early baskets. As QRIch put it, several plays in a row may go by without him touching the ball. Now we won't be quite that wild with our running game. We will see a LOT more halfcourt play than PHX does.

Steph is NOT going to just ignore Frye and Curry. I really don't know where this stuff comes from. With the exception of NJ, when he HAD to take more shots, during his entire career the players Steph has played with have gotten TONS of shots while playing with him. Even last year during the streak, team scoring and assists went UP NOT DOWN. When he's playing his game well as he did when KVH and Doleac were here, he avg's MORE than his career 8 assists, NOT LESS. So let's just kill this crap about him, which can't be proven by the FACTS. In truth Steph is far more of a passer than many who dislike him would admit. Since he's been here Steph's FGA's have decreased not increased. I expect that he'll take more shots this year, but that is a good thing for this team.

Nixluva what the heck is wrong with you man? I ask the question, I give my opinion. Stop reading my goddamnnnn posts with a jaded eye. My opinion is that if you give up a lottery pick for a guy you feature him in the offense. That is my opinion.If you disagree with this opinion than state that and give reasons. That's why I ask the question to get some other points of view. Why do you have to turn it into a positive or negative spin. I don't even know what Isiah's game plan will be so how can I be negative or positive. You don't know if Curry will be featured or not. None of us do. He may get the ball 40 times a game for all I know. He may be a role player that is frozen out of the offense. He probably will be somewher inbetweeen. I don't know, you don't know, none of us know. So this is not an attack on anyone, it is a friggin question.

My opinion is that Eddie should be featured. If someone feels otherwise than tell me why. Maybe I will see your point of view. That's why I ask the question, so I don't pigeonhole myself one way or the other. CAn't you just answer the friggin question and give your opiniion once without trying to determine how positive or negative the question is?? Or what the poster really meant by it? Why is this so hard for you? Stop hi-jacking my posts with this nonsense.

Explain to me at what point did I say Steve and Steph would ignore Eddy? This is the question I actually asked without a spin "For argument's sake let's say they(Channing and Curry) get a ton of open looks. Curry gets a lot of lay-ups off great passes from Marbs and Francis. Is this what we want? Maybe it is." There is no implication in this question. I am wondering do we want these guys as role players scoring off passes for dunks. Or do we want to develop them by letting them earn their baskets and learn the post up game to help our future at the expense of our present?I asked "is this what we want?" Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. I was wondering opinions from everyone here. Good and bad. Some will say he will be ignored. Some will say he will get great passes. I have so far said neither and even eluded to him getting great passes from the two. But again, guy, the question was, is him being a "role player" or "secondary guy" or "part of the offense" something we want, or should we feature him? The answer, I DON'T KNOW. THAT IS WHY I WANT OPINIONS. That's why I ask.

Nixluva please just respond to the question or ignore them. I value your opinion and the opinions of the "positivity patrol" and the "pessimists". I don't need only people that think like me. I want all opininons. That's why I ask. I have personally never been around a person who takes every question like a personal affront to him or his team before in my life. Why is it so hard to just discuss the question

[Edited by - bippity10 on 10-13-2006 10:06 AM]

Posted by martin:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by crzymdups:

this is ridiculous. Frye, Lee, Curry and Craw are going to see a ton of time and going to see a ton of open looks created by Marbury and Francis.

for one thing, there is NO ONE else in the front court anymore - we have Frye, Lee, Curry, Jefferies and JJ and Malik are injured. The kids will play and they'll see the ball plenty.

For argument's sake let's say they get a ton of open looks. Curry gets a lot of lay-ups off great passes from Marbs and Francis. Is this what we want? Maybe it is. Maybe we brought him here to be a role player. Silly to give up that much for a role player but maybe we did. If he is truly our franchise guy would it make sense to feature him in the offense so he can learn? Or does it make sense to use him as a role player until Marbs and Francis leave the team and then start to feature him?

how about this Bip. I am of one mind that using Marbs and Francis as cutters who dump off to the open man is a good thing for another year or so. Realistically, Frye, Lee and Curry (who is just a slow learner and we must start treating like a 2nd year player - that's just the reality) are NBA newbies. Let's take a little pressure off of them while using those 2 guards to their max potential. Win a few games, make the team a little happier and SLOWLY integrate Curry and Frye into the offense and defense. And do it really slowly for Curry; it is an admittance of mistake, but that's what we got.

I think that's just the realistic position the organization is in. You can't feed the ball to Curry cause he will fail and Franbury will be rendered useless and get aggravated in the process. It also re-invigorates Stevebury's games and makes them attractive to other teams... kinda (in a way that all girls look tons more attractive when you keep drinking).