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fishmike
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10/4/2006  7:44 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/story/458092p-385496c.html

Curry, Knicks breathless



BY FRANK ISOLA
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


Isiah Thomas enjoys 1st practice as Knick coach, which ends with players struggling on sprints.

CHARLESTON, S.C. - Jared Jeffries, the Knicks' newly minted $30 million small forward, shot one air ball from the foul line and launched a couple of bricks at the end of Isiah Thomas' first practice yesterday, resulting in Jeffries' teammates running a few extra wind sprints.
Three additional "suicides" were added because free agent Nikoloz Tskitishvili, a player without a guaranteed contract, suffered the misfortune of having his cell phone ring in the locker room while Thomas was addressing the team on Monday.

The punishment for those transgressions seemed particularly cruel for Eddy Curry, who was huffing and puffing from end line to end line and finished last each time. He eventually needed Quentin Richardson and David Lee to pull him along. But at least Curry finished. His backup, Jerome James, resumed his familiar role of hobbled spectator after suffering an injury on the first day of practice for the second straight year.

"We've got a ways to go," Thomas said yesterday from the College of Charleston. "We got a long way to go."

With precious little time and a flawed roster at his disposal, Thomas is under the gun to turn the Knicks into a winner. In 28 days, the Knicks open the season in Memphis against the Grizzlies and will play 11 of their first 18 games on the road. When asked if he feels a sense of urgency to turn things around, Thomas softly replied: "I would say that's accurate."

Thomas is counting on Curry to increase his productivity and minutes from last season under Larry Brown. The Knicks acquired Curry one year ago today from the Chicago Bulls in a controversial deal that gave Chicago salary-cap relief and a non-protected lottery pick .

The Bulls, convinced that Curry suffers from a potentially fatal heart ailment, ended up with the second pick in the draft, which they used to select Texas forward LaMarcus Aldridge before trading him to Portland, and were able to sign Ben Wallace. The Knicks still owe them a first-round pick this June.

Meanwhile, Curry arrived in camp out of shape and failed to become the dominant big man Thomas covets. Yesterday, however, Thomas suggested that Brown was to blame for Curry's production.

"When I look at it, it probably had more to do with minutes played than anything," Thomas said without mentioning Brown. "I think when you're averaging 25 minutes, 24minutes a night and you're getting (13.6 points) and six rebounds and shooting (56%) from the field that's pretty damn good to do in 25 minutes. And I don't think there are a lot of centers who did that in 25 minutes a night. My job is to keep him out on the floor and try to give him more minutes so he can be productive."

Curry's limited playing time - he averaged 25.9 minutes in a team-high 69 starts - can also be blamed on his inability to remain fit and stay out of foul trouble. Curry averaged 3.3 fouls per game and had a habit of starting off strong and disappearing down the stretch.

Fatigue and lack of motivation were cited as the primary reasons for Curry's poor production in the fourth quarter. Thomas is trying to address both concerns during the preseason. During yesterday's wind sprints, Thomas was closely monitoring the lumbering center and decided that Curry, who was once diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat, should take a break. Curry, however, insisted on running, and with a little assistance from Richardson and Lee, he completed the workout.
"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."

The sight of watching the 23-year-old Curry struggle to get up and down the court was somewhat troubling. But Thomas was impressed that Curry refused to quit and that Richardson and Lee wouldn't allow him to.

"My job is to make sure he has great success and make him a better player," Thomas said. "I've had experiences with it before, helping Jermaine (O'Neal) Brad Miller grow. I believe I can have similar success with (Eddy) as well."

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fishmike
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10/4/2006  7:45 AM
Gee Isiah, is it also Larry's fault that your 23 year old center cant run suicides?

Hmmmm... Curry can finish a cardio workout and Jerome is hurt after one practice. More things change, the more they stay the same. Welcome to the new feel good Knicks
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10/4/2006  7:56 AM
Isiah is like Coach Carter!
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10/4/2006  7:57 AM
Posted by fishmike:

Gee Isiah, is it also Larry's fault that your 23 year old center cant run suicides?

Hmmmm... Curry can finish a cardio workout and Jerome is hurt after one practice. More things change, the more they stay the same. Welcome to the new feel good Knicks

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10/4/2006  8:03 AM
Curry is a good guy and seems to have a good attitude ("I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice.") I'm really pulling for him.

As for him struggling to finish suicides, its just the first day, give him a break. There were times I could barely finish suicides as a 140lb 16 yr old playing for my schools team.

[Edited by - bigbeast on 10-04-2006 08:41 AM]
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10/4/2006  8:25 AM
Posted by bigbeast:

Curry is a good guy and seems to have a good attitude ("I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice.") I'm really pulling for him.

As for him struggling to finish suicides, its just the first day, give him a break. There were times I could barely finish suicides as a 140lb 16 yr old playing for my schools team.

thing is, you weren't getting $10M a year nor did you work out all summer long with a trainer.

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10/4/2006  8:34 AM
From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."
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10/4/2006  8:44 AM
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."

Sure that is the most important Quote. The most important point is that Q and Lee had to pull Curry to finish the suicides.
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10/4/2006  8:47 AM
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."

Sure that is the most important Quote. The most important point is that Q and Lee had to pull Curry to finish the suicides.

How do we know that wasn't merely Isola's perception?
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10/4/2006  8:53 AM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."

Sure that is the most important Quote. The most important point is that Q and Lee had to pull Curry to finish the suicides.

How do we know that wasn't merely Isola's perception?


Berman wrote about this in the Post, but said he was running with the guards.

Whats important at the political level, and in the boardroom when running a company is to blame your predisessers for everything wrong. This at least buys you time.

The team did not respond to "tough love" so they will try to build unity. Hey, I hope it works!


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10/4/2006  8:58 AM
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."

Sure that is the most important Quote. The most important point is that Q and Lee had to pull Curry to finish the suicides.

How do we know that wasn't merely Isola's perception?


Berman wrote about this in the Post, but said he was running with the guards.

Whats important at the political level, and in the boardroom when running a company is to blame your predisessers for everything wrong. This at least buys you time.

The team did not respond to "tough love" so they will try to build unity. Hey, I hope it works!

OK, but Berman, imo, is a Brownophile who is out to get Isiah fired.
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10/4/2006  9:31 AM
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."
I agree. I'm taking the most positive thing and running with it. BUT, if Isiah is saying that it most probably had to do with the players not the coach then I am starting to worry. People usually sugar coat things and him saying that could mean things are real bad.
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10/4/2006  9:33 AM
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10/4/2006  9:41 AM
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."
I agree. I'm taking the most positive thing and running with it. BUT, if Isiah is saying that it most probably had to do with the players not the coach then I am starting to worry. People usually sugar coat things and him saying that could mean things are real bad.
Look at what we have been reduced to being happy about. Look at how low Isiah has reduced any expectations for this franchise and those that play for it. Now we applaud a guy thats *willing* to practice and work hard, even though he's clearly not in playing shape, despite one on one training and a supposed off season of hard work.

It kills me, it really does
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10/4/2006  9:51 AM
Posted by fishmike:
Posted by Silverfuel:
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."
I agree. I'm taking the most positive thing and running with it. BUT, if Isiah is saying that it most probably had to do with the players not the coach then I am starting to worry. People usually sugar coat things and him saying that could mean things are real bad.
Look at what we have been reduced to being happy about. Look at how low Isiah has reduced any expectations for this franchise and those that play for it. Now we applaud a guy thats *willing* to practice and work hard, even though he's clearly not in playing shape, despite one on one training and a supposed off season of hard work.

It kills me, it really does

Ditto. I'm not buying that kind of optimism. Maybe Curry says he can finish, but he's a pro, he's supposed to and his teammates are supposed to pick him up. He's still out of shape.
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10/4/2006  10:04 AM
Posted by Rich:
Posted by Nalod:
Posted by Rich:
Posted by joec32033:
Posted by Rich:

From my perspective, this is the most important quote from the article:


"I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice."

Sure that is the most important Quote. The most important point is that Q and Lee had to pull Curry to finish the suicides.

How do we know that wasn't merely Isola's perception?


Berman wrote about this in the Post, but said he was running with the guards.

Whats important at the political level, and in the boardroom when running a company is to blame your predisessers for everything wrong. This at least buys you time.

The team did not respond to "tough love" so they will try to build unity. Hey, I hope it works!

OK, but Berman, imo, is a Brownophile who is out to get Isiah fired.

Wrong. Berman is far from a Brownaphile.
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10/4/2006  10:14 AM
Suicides are called that for a reason. A HUGE guy like Curry will likely always be behind the smaller guys. Are you really that clueless. If he tried to push the pace while running with GUARDS, of course he's gonna get winded. He has time to get into better condition. We're talking about the END of practice with additional suicides being run. ON THE 1ST DAY!!! At least he's giving a real effort to do what the team does.

He did lose weight and i'm happy that he did. It can't hurt that he's a bit lighter than he was. His core looked to be trimmer than last year.

Hey how about the way the players are bonding together? That's a nice thing to hear.
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10/4/2006  10:18 AM
Posted by martin:
Posted by bigbeast:

Curry is a good guy and seems to have a good attitude ("I'm part of this team so I want to finish it," Curry said. "I'm not sitting down. I'm going to practice every second of practice.") I'm really pulling for him.

As for him struggling to finish suicides, its just the first day, give him a break. There were times I could barely finish suicides as a 140lb 16 yr old playing for my schools team.

thing is, you weren't getting $10M a year nor did you work out all summer long with a trainer.

Tim Grover should think twice about keeping Curry as a client. All this bad pub can't be good for business.

Work out with Grover all summer and then barely be able to get through day 1 of training camp drills.

So last year when he admittedly (by everybody) wasn't in shape it was Brown's fault for not giving him more minutes as Isiah implied despite the fact that he was in no condition to be playing tons of minutes. But when he supposedly worked out all summer and came to camp in shape he can barely finish running drills.

So when do people stop using the Larry Brown excuse?
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10/4/2006  10:18 AM
So if Frye came in 2nd to last are we going to blast him? How come Frye cant keep up with Nate and Jcraw? He must not have run or worked out all summer based on this logic. Who would have figured that the heaviest guys wouldnt keep up with guys 150-190 pounds. What a shock??? LOL
I LOVED how Curry just exploded in the 4th, speaking as a fan of the Raptors, Curry looked well, scary I think is the word. Or Shaq-like Curry: 19.1ppg-7.3rpg-58%fg
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10/4/2006  10:21 AM
Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

So if Frye came in 2nd to last are we going to blast him? How come Frye cant keep up with Nate and Jcraw? He must not have run or worked out all summer based on this logic. Who would have figured that the heaviest guys wouldnt keep up with guys 150-190 pounds. What a shock??? LOL

It wasn't about beating any particular player in the drills. It was about struggling to finish after supposedly working out all summer and coming to camp in great shape.
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