man, this makes me sick... From Insider:

Speaking of awards, Ron Artest already has one vote for the All-Defensive Team. "If they don't put him first-team all-defense this year, I'll be disgusted. I'll be very disgusted," Cleveland's Darius Miles told the Indianapolis Star. "We call him 'The Beast' for a reason," Brad Miller said of Artest. "He's so strong, and he just loves playing defense. He scares people anymore. He just physically and mentally intimidates people." Artest agrees. "As much physical play as I can do without fouling I'm going to do," Artest said. "It's like football-basketball for me."

Artest said. "It's like football-basketball for me."

i love it when it's football-basketball. that used to define the knicks of old, mason, oakley, starks...

This is why we need a new GM.

I forgot to mention the Donnell Harvey/Strickland deal and getting Harrington, as mentioned on the "saturday game" topic.

Posted by DefAndReb:

Posted by OasisBU:

This is why we need a new GM.

Again, to be fair, this wasn't Layden's fault. He wasn't even hired yet. I agree we need a new GM (and a new owner) but Layden's biggest mistakes are:

- Glenn Rice (3 2-guards rotate the 2-3)
- Travis Knight (nuff said)
- Luc Longley (injured and Layden knew it)
- 100 mil to Houston (please!)
- 4.5 mil exception to Spoon (I like Spoon okay, but not for that money)
- Shanderson and Eisley (to me proof Layden doesn't know what he's doing)
- 2001 draft (Chenowith and Wright)
- inability to land a real starting center
- triples up covered positions and ignores size/quality needs at other positions

Tapscott was Grunfeld's guy. I blame Checketts for allowing him to run that draft.

[Edited by - DefAndReb on 11/14/2002 13:29:03]

Yes we should of drafted him but knowing the Knicks preference for
washed up vets he would be rotting on the bench.I hate to say it but
he was lucky that the Knicks passed on him or he probably wouldnt
have had the chance to show how good he is.

Remember, NBA isn't one on one, it's a team game. Burke plays well in the team game because he hustles and has some muscle. He's not there to score. Weis is too much like Ilgauskas, physically. These 7-foot guys all want to shoot the ball, but they're too thin and get hurt easily. That's stupid. They need to get some bulk and push guys around. Still, if Weis wanted to play in the NBA, he'd be able to get a bench spot on a team right now.

The biggest joke with the Weis trade was that no one asked Weis if he wanted to play in the U.S. in the first place. If Knicks scouts had talked to the kid, instead of his 'stateside' management (not even his real agent, but an adjunct agent) they would have known he had little interest in moving to America. He should never have been entered in the draft in the first place. It was a greedy U.S. agent's fantasy that had no real chance of ever happening. Knicks didn't do their research.