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Glen Grunweld - Worse than Layden - Here is PROOF
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Elite
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9/29/2006  12:38 PM
Positives:

Drafted Bosh (However this is arguable because he took Bosh ahead of Wade)
Got Mike James for Alston (This is also arguable because he let Mike James walk after a good year so ended up with nothing and then had to trade CV for Ford to replace him)

Negatives:

Traded Doug Christe to kings for Corlis Williamson
Traded Mcgrady to Orlando for a DRAFT PICK
Drafted Jonothan Bender 5th in 99 which turned into A Davis
Traded Chaucney Billups for Zeljko Rebraca and a draft pick
Traded young Camby for an OLD Oakley
Traded Damon Stoudimire and Walk Williams for Kenny Anderson and Alvin Williams
Traded Vince Carter for 2 Picks and Eric Williams
Signed a 50 year old Hakeem Olajuwon






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[Edited by - elite on 09-29-2006 12:42 PM]
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arkrud
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9/29/2006  1:05 PM
Sometimes it looks like somebody paying some under table money to guys like IT and Co. to screw the teams up.
The guy with this track record should be banned from NBA for life...

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9/29/2006  1:05 PM
elite...grunwald didnt do all tht....he did some of it, but babcock was respnsible for the carter deals...

still i dont like grunwald at all
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9/29/2006  1:08 PM

McGrady was a free agent and that was a sign and trade to get somthing.

Billips was a journey man in the making until that Larry fella got a hold of him. What was the draft pick?

Camby was on the downswing and the team picked up Oak for veteran leadership for a team getting close to contention. Gotta look at where they were at the time.

I thought Babcock was GM when Vince was traded? Also Babdick traded Alston for Mike james. Mike James is not the point you want playing uptempo anyway.

IM not defending GrunLayden, but you gotta look at the player and the team at the time these things were done. Also gotta remember Babcock.

I think Most GMs have lots of things they regret in hindsight.

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9/29/2006  1:35 PM
What difference does it make, the guy is just being brought in to be an (e)scapegoat and to be fired in a year anyway. Just like a coach.

Gotta preserve the integrity of the system...
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9/29/2006  1:37 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

What difference does it make, the guy is just being brought in to be an (e)scapegoat and to be fired in a year anyway. Just like a coach.

Gotta preserve the integrity of the system...

and at the same time
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9/29/2006  2:44 PM
Posted by BlueSeats:

What difference does it make, the guy is just being brought in to be an (e)scapegoat and to be fired in a year anyway. Just like a coach.

Gotta preserve the integrity of the system...

Do I hear new front page quote?
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EnySpree
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9/29/2006  6:54 PM
Toronto made the playoffs under grunweld, right?
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9/29/2006  11:42 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Toronto made the playoffs under grunweld, right?

We made playoffs under Layden, right?
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10/2/2006  8:55 AM
Well there's a lot omitted and factually incorrect here. What got Grunwald hated in Toronto as much as anything was Vince Carter wanting out and his team getting old (partially due to the fact that he missed on a couple first rounders, Radojevic being a major one). His early tenure was pretty succesful. Check out his GM record on hoopshype.
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