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FrenchKnicks
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11/13/2002  10:09 AM
Well, I know this guy is special but he's a shooting guard, where we have Alan for 6 more years at a huge prize... would you like to see an other great player playing out of position???

I just don't think he'll be among the 2003 NBA draftees... he has said several times that he wanted to go to university!

What about Carmelo Anthony at SF, if Spree is traded?

We need size, youth and atheltism...
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11/13/2002  10:21 AM
I saw something about Bobby Knight where an NBA GM asked him who he should draft, and he said "Michael Jordan" and the GM said "Nah, he's a guard, I need a center" Bobby Knight said "then make Jordan play center." The GM didn't pick Jordan, and Chicago did. Knight's point, pick the best guy available, work out the other problems later.

If the Knicks get 1st pick, which is a longshot regardless of their record, they should pick the best player available. So if it's James, he can come off the bench for Houston until he proves he is good enough.

Knowing Layden, he might trade 1st pick for the rights to get Glenn Rice back.
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11/13/2002  10:36 AM
But if I follow your example, would Jordan have become a superstar playing center???

Well, I understand your point, but I'm not convinced... you never know in the draft, especially with the first oeverall pick that is much overated to me...

Who are the former #1 pick in the draft who became superstar in this league... hummm???
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11/13/2002  10:53 AM
theoretically the knicks could pick LeBron then trade him for some impact players - or if they get him it makes some of the current pieces on the team expendable. Either way, it is probably smart to go with the talent then with the position you need. Its not like we have Hakkem, Shaq, or Ewing to look forward to in the draft. There arent many quality big men out there. The knicks really screwed up this year because the PF's available seem to be very talented. It would have added some height to this team and some youth and they would still have been bad enough to be in the Lebron sweeps (assuming camby was injured, spree still broke his pinky, and the team played as bad as they are now). They should have invested more in the future and less in the right now...getting Lebron is a step in that direction and even that is an extreme longshot.
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11/13/2002  10:58 AM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

But if I follow your example, would Jordan have become a superstar playing center???

Well, I understand your point, but I'm not convinced... you never know in the draft, especially with the first oeverall pick that is much overated to me...

Who are the former #1 pick in the draft who became superstar in this league... hummm???

I've seen some video clips of Lebron and the kid is worth the #1. Me could play SG or SF, possible point guard. Look at what the lakers did with Kobe. They had Eddie Jones, a quality starter and low level allstar on their team and they still went after him.
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11/13/2002  11:58 AM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

Well, I know this guy is special but he's a shooting guard, where we have Alan for 6 more years at a huge prize... would you like to see an other great player playing out of position???

I just don't think he'll be among the 2003 NBA draftees... he has said several times that he wanted to go to university!

What about Carmelo Anthony at SF, if Spree is traded?

We need size, youth and atheltism...

The Knicks if they get the number one should pick James only because he is what they need a potential superstar in the mold of T-mac and Kobe and could easily end up to be somewhere close to jordan when he is done playing. He is said to have the skils necessary to play three positions and they compare his passing skills to Majic. He can easily play the point and should play the point when he starts increasing his ball handling skills to a point where he is as good as Kobe, Jordan and Majic. That is the course that the Bulls took with Jordan and Laker with Kobe. To make him a better player they started the two at guard. If you guys recall Jordan did most of the ball handling duties for the Bulls and Kobe came in to play the PG position when Jones was out there.
Not to mention he will have instant impact with Sneaker sales and Jersey sales which I think the Knicks would really love. I believe that when he is done playing he will bring a Billion dollars worth of business to any franchise that lands him.
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11/13/2002  12:08 PM
Bring on Lebron!
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11/13/2002  12:37 PM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

Well, I know this guy is special but he's a shooting guard, where we have Alan for 6 more years at a huge prize... would you like to see an other great player playing out of position???

I just don't think he'll be among the 2003 NBA draftees... he has said several times that he wanted to go to university!

What about Carmelo Anthony at SF, if Spree is traded?

We need size, youth and atheltism...

For one, James can play P or SF as well. Secondly, even if he could only play SG, I would still draft him and put Houston's ass on the bench. You don't turn down a possible future superstar like that, you draft him then worry about the problems later. And this kid will definitely not go to college, he will come out this year, that is for sure.
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11/13/2002  1:09 PM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

But if I follow your example, would Jordan have become a superstar playing center???

Yes, he would have, because he's MJ. Just because you call him center doesn't mean he plays under the net. That's what Knight meant. KEEPCAMBYNY is right. Let Houston hand out the Gatorade.

Also, look at what Andrew said. Eddie Jones got a lot of hype. Kobe comes along, one thinks "Why they need him, they got Eddie Jones?" Kobe takes a season or two to get fully game-ready, then surpasses Jones by far. Jones is a role-player, Kobe's a star.
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11/13/2002  1:22 PM
Posted by DefAndReb:
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

But if I follow your example, would Jordan have become a superstar playing center???

Yes, he would have, because he's MJ. Just because you call him center doesn't mean he plays under the net. That's what Knight meant. KEEPCAMBYNY is right. Let Houston hand out the Gatorade.

Also, look at what Andrew said. Eddie Jones got a lot of hype. Kobe comes along, one thinks "Why they need him, they got Eddie Jones?" Kobe takes a season or two to get fully game-ready, then surpasses Jones by far. Jones is a role-player, Kobe's a star.

Exactly, Houston is a role player - LeBron might just be that future Star the Knicks need to fix this team. But it is WAY too early to begin speculating about all of this. We are still basically at the beginning of the season. Lets see what happens.
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11/13/2002  2:43 PM
portland passed on Michael Jordan because the already had Clyde Drexler. Think that was a good move? No matter where you are, in baskteball you always draft for talent. Trade later if you have too. Teams that draft based on their roster ALWAYS lose.
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11/13/2002  2:46 PM
Personally, I don't see the point picking another SG who isn't gonna get much playing time.. it would be a waste IMO. I understand James could be a superstar, but what's the point in picking one that's just gonna be on the bench?
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11/13/2002  3:20 PM
Posted by Explosive23:

Personally, I don't see the point picking another SG who isn't gonna get much playing time.. it would be a waste IMO. I understand James could be a superstar, but what's the point in picking one that's just gonna be on the bench?

So you are saying Portland did the smart thing by drafting Sam Bowie instead of Jordan? And that Charlotte did the smart thing by trading for Vlade instead of keeping Kobe (even though Kobe did make some comments about not wanting to play in NC)?
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11/13/2002  4:27 PM
Posted by fishmike:

portland passed on Michael Jordan because the already had Clyde Drexler. Think that was a good move? No matter where you are, in baskteball you always draft for talent. Trade later if you have too. Teams that draft based on their roster ALWAYS lose.
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11/13/2002  4:28 PM
Posted by Explosive23:

Personally, I don't see the point picking another SG who isn't gonna get much playing time.. it would be a waste IMO. I understand James could be a superstar, but what's the point in picking one that's just gonna be on the bench?
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11/13/2002  5:19 PM
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

But if I follow your example, would Jordan have become a superstar playing center???

Well, I understand your point, but I'm not convinced... you never know in the draft, especially with the first oeverall pick that is much overated to me...

Who are the former #1 pick in the draft who became superstar in this league... hummm???

wow, are you serious? Shaq, Olajuwon, Ewing, Iverson, Magic, Robinson, Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, the list goes on. All these guys were #1 picks and last time I checked they either were superstars or currently are superstars. That is one of the dumbest posts I have read, having the #1 pick overrated? please........
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11/13/2002  8:54 PM
Not to mention, last time I checked, Kwame Brown was on his way to being a pretty steady player as well...he has abright future in front of him. He also had something in common with the above mentioned names...#1 pick.
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11/13/2002  9:40 PM
All the basketball experts say LeBron is better then Kobe and McGrady were coming out of high school. This argument is ridiculous, don't draft him because the Knicks have Allan Houston. Are you insane?

That'd be like saying don't draft Magic Johnson because you have Howard Eisley locked up long term. That's how teams decline (cough KNICKS cough).
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11/13/2002  10:33 PM
come on man, this one is a no brainer. The knicks desperately need a young superstar to build around, regardless of position, get me a guy like James with that potential and I can build a team around him..Period!!!
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11/13/2002  10:39 PM
Posted by spencerdoobie:
Posted by FrenchKnicks:

But if I follow your example, would Jordan have become a superstar playing center???

Well, I understand your point, but I'm not convinced... you never know in the draft, especially with the first oeverall pick that is much overated to me...

Who are the former #1 pick in the draft who became superstar in this league... hummm???

wow, are you serious? Shaq, Olajuwon, Ewing, Iverson, Magic, Robinson, Elton Brand, Tim Duncan, the list goes on. All these guys were #1 picks and last time I checked they either were superstars or currently are superstars. That is one of the dumbest posts I have read, having the #1 pick overrated? please........

Same thing happened in football ways back.... do you know a guy known as "LT" who wasnt taken with the #1 pick, I think he ended up with the giants... He wore some number.. was it 56?
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