another one i put in the francis thread. here we go:

Marbury
strength: a deceptively quick guard who has the handle and speed to take it to the rim against anybody one on one. one of the strongest point guards in the nba that will alow him to finish plays when he is bumped in the lane. good court vision in the half court set and one of the best "pick and roll" point guards in the league. prototypical half court pg. good range and can avg. in the mid twenties. a statistic freak, will avg. this season 20ppg and 8 apg this season. on most nights a defensive nightmare for other teams. better defender than given credit for and will get steals or force turnovers. capable of drawing in the defense to open opportunities for everyone else. good rebouder for a guard.

weakness: poor leadership skills. pouts if things are not going his way. struggles leading an open floor offense. can make head scratching decisions with the ball. easily disinterested. huge ego that will clash with other players. lockerroom demeanor is awful and can ruin team chemistry. wants to do too much and loses trust in teammates more often. inconsistent defensively. streaky shooter who needs the balls in his hands all of the time ( so he thinks).

Marbury

strengths: strongest PG in the NBA, very good drawing contact in the lane, extremely good dribble penetrator & passer, very good off the pick & roll, good court vision, underrated team defender

weaknesses: jazz74 pretty much covered it... also have to add his penchant to shrivel under pressure, whether missing clutch FT's at the foul line or passing up a big shot at the key moment in the game.

[Edited by - TMS on 09-14-2006 11:56 AM]

strongest PG in the NBA? No way Cancerbury is stronger than JKidd. In the past Jkidd would out muscle him often. Andre Miller is also way stronger than Cancerbury. Gary Payton is also stronger.

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

strongest PG in the NBA? No way Cancerbury is stronger than JKidd. In the past Jkidd would out muscle him often. Andre Miller is also way stronger than Cancerbury. Gary Payton is also stronger.

i'm not talking the literal definition of strength... hell, i bet Nate Robinson can lift more weight than Marbury can... Earl Boykins is probably the strongest PG in the league pound for pound speaking in those terms... i'm talking about the ability to drive to the hole, draw contact, & still get his shot off & get the foul... that's what Marbury is the best at doing in the NBA from the PG position... other than Dwayne Wade, there aren't many who are better at this aspect of the game.

does any of this translate into wins

i forgot one more weakness for marbury. you ever noticed that when he gives up the ball to a teammate he struggles to get open to get the ball again? he seems to be an awful off the ball offensive player.

Posted by SugarRayRichardson:

strongest PG in the NBA? No way Cancerbury is stronger than JKidd. In the past Jkidd would out muscle him often. Andre Miller is also way stronger than Cancerbury. Gary Payton is also stronger.

i may give you j kidd and even billups but andre miller and senior citizen payton? you must be kidding me.

Jazz Andre Miller is very strong. Probably stronger than Jkidd. Gary Payton speaks for himself. If he could muscle up with MJ I dont think Cancerbury is a problem. For all Cancerburys strength why is he always running away from fights with Qrich and KT among others? Where was all his strength vs Wally last year. All he did was mouth off but when payback time came due Marbs did nothing as usual.

Strengths: Amazing natural talent. Ideal size, strength, speed for the PG position and ideal overall skillset. Simply cannot be guarded one on one, no player in the NBA will stop him from penetrating into the lane one on one. Seems to have eyes in the back of his head and is capable of making the amazing pass. Streaky shooter, but has excellent range. Over has career, has gone to the line consistently and hit at an excellent clip. Has wiry strength and can go into the lane almost undettered. Has a natural knack for feeling contact and will finish his shots despite taking a hit. Very agressive going into the lane and will keep at it the whole game despite taking contact. Can pick up assists in bunches and move the ball effortlessly when he feels like it. When focused, is a a good defender with the strength to guard all PG's and even some SG's.

Weaknesses: Poor overall mentality. Will let negative momentum affect the outcome of his game. When the scoreboard isn't in his favor, will take it upon himself to do all the scoring rather than looking to distribute. Will lock out teammates he doesn't have confidence in. Often either looks to only score or only pass, and rarely both, which makes less of a pure PG than a player like Nash. Uncharacteristically inconsistent at the free throw line last year, most likely a mental reaction to negative adversity. Jump shot is inconsistent. Can go cold for several games. Often completely disinterested in defense, and will be lit up by even mediocre opposing PG's. Has not played for many winning teams in his career and is not a leader.

Bottom Line: Marbury is an elite talent, but is a headcase. Can make his teammates better, but isn't always interested in doing so. From a talent perspective one of the 2-3 best PG's in the NBA if not the best, but the results don't show that.