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JohnWallace44
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8/9/2006  11:09 PM
When asked if he'd want to leave Minnesota if the team didn't improve, Garnett said, "I got to...If you’re not working towards a championship, then why are we in this? I’m in it to win, man, I’m not in it to be coming back talking about next year. I’m 30. I’ve probably got 4 to 5 years, you know what I’m saying? My clock is ticking, man. I’m almost like a woman who’s trying to get pregnant. My years are limited, so my clock is definitely ticking."

Garnett and McCants
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JRose, Frye and Craw would be decent

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Alan Hahn: Nate Robinson has been on a ridonkulous scoring tear lately (remember when he couldn't hit Jerome James with a Big Mac in early January?)
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8/9/2006  11:12 PM
stop including our future...if they don't take back junk, then what is the point?
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8/9/2006  11:23 PM
We're not getting Garnett. If he wants to leave Minny, he's going to want to go to a WINNER.
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8/9/2006  11:28 PM
Posted by rvhoss:

stop including our future...if they don't take back junk, then what is the point?

I wouldn't, but some people would consider Craw junk. And if you're taking junk back, why is Minny making the trade with us? Personally I think McCants has that Spree, me against the world, makeup that would allow him to make a bigger impact in New York than most of what's on our roster.

Anyway, the point is that its possible that we could work a deal for KG versus some of the other deals that are thrown out there. There aren't that many teams that we can really make deals with when you try to match up salaries.
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8/9/2006  11:52 PM
Sounds like someone's bilogical clock is ticking.....



[Edited by - basketballjones on 08-09-2006 23:53]
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8/10/2006  2:05 AM
Great quote from garnett. Minnesota should shop him. Why the heck not? The longer they wait what would be the point. 30 turns to 35 real fast. Before you know it garnett will be getting schooled by, frye, lol.
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8/10/2006  7:18 AM
Posted by JohnWallace44:

When asked if he'd want to leave Minnesota if the team didn't improve, Garnett said, "I got to...If you’re not working towards a championship, then why are we in this? I’m in it to win, man, I’m not in it to be coming back talking about next year. I’m 30. I’ve probably got 4 to 5 years, you know what I’m saying? My clock is ticking, man. I’m almost like a woman who’s trying to get pregnant. My years are limited, so my clock is definitely ticking."

Garnett and McCants
for
JRose, Frye and Craw would be decent

trade checker: 3334548
Isiah would never make that trade... throw in Lee, 2 #1's and Nate and maybe you have something. Also we should take back Troy Hudson and Jaric. Thats more Isiah like

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8/10/2006  9:06 AM
KG is going to try to pick his destination and if we are in last place when the decision is made, now way it happens.

Look what Indiana got for Artest? Rent a Peja!

Minny might be lucky to get Jalen Rose (Major Cap Relief) and Frye & Balkman!
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8/10/2006  10:17 AM
I would give them Curry, Nate, Crawford, and Rose, you want colins in the deal fine, with a first round pick, whatever in all honesty who is that special there that can't be replaced, nobody

If they do Foye and KG I"m in and this deal works

New York Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jalen Rose
6-8 SG from Michigan
12.3 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 2.5 apg in 27.3 minutes
Maurice Taylor
6-9 PF from Michigan
6.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 0.8 apg in 18.0 minutes
Eddy Curry
6-11 C from Thornwood (HS)
13.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 0.3 apg in 25.9 minutes
Nate Robinson
5-9 PG from Washington
9.3 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 2.0 apg in 21.4 minutes
Incoming
Randy Foye
6-4 from Villanova
No games yet played in 2005/06
Marko Jaric
6-7 SG from Serbia-Montenegro (Foreign)
7.8 ppg, 3.1 rpg, 3.9 apg in 28.1 minutes
Mark Blount
7-0 C from Pittsburgh
11.3 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 27.7 minutes
Kevin Garnett
6-11 PF from Farragut Academy (HS)
21.8 ppg, 12.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 39.0 minutes

Marbury/Crawford/Jaric
Francis/Foye
Jefferies/Balkman
KG/Lee
Frye/Blount

IR: James, Rose, Balkman, Collins

It gives them some cap flexibility......and they obviously wouldn't make the playoffs and a high pick in the draft......

Young Core Minny: Nate, Curry, McCants, and they get wid of three bad contracts.......

We can play the three years out and not resign, Steph and Stevie, and cut James if thats the option, and in three years we will be championship ready......

Foye/Collins
Crawford/Richardson
Jefferies/Balkman
KG/Lee
Frye/Blount

A penetrating PG, two bigs that can knock down jumpers, and god willing Lebron wants to come to NY we have a championship ready veteran team.....
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8/10/2006  11:39 AM
no way they throw in foye with garnett, foye is gonna be real good

[Edited by - nyballer on 08-10-2006 11:43 AM]
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8/10/2006  7:30 PM
I don't know if you read the rest of the article :

http://slamonline.com/online/2006/08/qa-kevin-garnett/

Two weeks ago, I flew all the way out to Los Angeles just to talk about shoes. Of course, I wouldn’t go that far to talk about footwear unless the people I was talking with had something good to say. And these guys did.

Our friends at adidas were working on their campaign for the next season, and they invited SLAM to Santa Monica to check it out. While I was out there, I had the chance to sit down and interview five NBA All-Stars: Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, Tracy McGrady, Chauncey Billups and Gilbert Arenas. That story will be the cover story of the forthcoming issue of KICKS, our annual shoe special, which will hit newsstands in a week or so. (And there will be a ton of content from that evening showing up here on SLAMonline in the next week or so — photos, videos, audio, interviews, etc.)

I’ve been covering the NBA long enough that I had either interviewed or spent time around most of those guys before. But somehow I’d never really spent much time around Kevin Garnett.

If you’ve never met KG, he’s pretty remarkable — loud, boisterous, funny, magnetic. The other guys at our photo shoot were all getting along fine, but when KG arrived and injected his personality into the proceedings the whole thing turned from just another photo shoot into a party. On the court, we often see KG as being only about his business, his face set, his smile hidden. Off the floor, at least on this day, KG was the student body president, the kid who can make friends with anyone.

For the last decade, KG’s career has been about promise and heartbreak. Each year Kevin goes out and posts amazing numbers, averaging at least 22 points and 13 rebounds per game for the last four seasons (and 20 and 11 over his eleven year career). He’s been remarkably durable, missing just 9 games since the 2000 campaign. But he’s also had to deal with intense failure, at least by his standards. As he makes clear below, the only reason he’s playing is because he wants to win a championship; yet in the real world, in eight trips to the playoffs, KG’s Timberwolves have escaped the first round just once, and that 2004 trip to the Western Conference Finals is the closest he’s ever been to the NBA Finals.

At the end of the night, KG and I sat down alone in the photo studio lounge to do an interview. I told him I was going to ask him mostly about his upcoming adidas signature shoes; after all, the story I was there for, and the magazine I was there for, is about shoes.

I’d promised KG it would only take a few minutes, and I only had 7 or 8 questions written in my notebook to ask him. The first question I asked him was an icebreaker, something fun that I’d also asked the other four guys. The other quartet each responded with answers no longer than two or three sentences.

KG’s answer was four paragraphs, totaling over 500 words long. And that was just on a fun question.

We settled in and had a wild, careening conversation, about everything from the Atlanta Braves and Boston Red Sox to KG’s self-professed title of the best housekeeper in the NBA (”I clean better than some maids!”) to his new shoes. KG seemed to be enjoying himself and he just kept talking, so I just kept asking questions.

Eventually, we got around to basketball, and a lot of interesting things were said. Instead of trying to read into his answers and put any words in his mouth, let’s let KG speak for himself…

SLAM: Last thing, a couple of basketball things…you happy with the way things are going this summer for the T-Wolves?
KG: Um…need to make some more acqui…you know, some more transactions, man. I feel like getting Mike James was a start, but that’s not enough. We need some more solid players to contribute. We lost Marcus Banks. I don’t know if they’re going to re-sign J-Reed — he’s a hard worker who I learned to appreciate and gravitate to a little bit. (Note: The T-Wolves re-signed Justin Reed this week. — LW) And I think in order for us to get back in the race in the West, with the Mavericks, the Suns and Timmy [Duncan] now, the Spurs, we’re going to have to have a dominant team, we’re going to have to some guys that run, lay it down, know how to play the game, bring some more veterans in. But, we gotta make some more transactions man. I don’t think the summer’s over.

You got, what, two months?
Yeah, but, you gotta do something, or, you know, something’s gotta change.

What are you most proud of at this point in your career?
How consistent I’ve been able to be. Consistency is the big thing that I work on. I don’t like to fall off, I don’t like to look at things like…um, I pride myself off consistency. It’s very hard night-in night-out to get things done, and I find a way to do ‘em. I hope I don’t jinx myself or whatever, I’m just keeping it real. One thing I’m able to say is I’ve been healthy and I’ve been able to be consistent.

Speaking of consistency, how do you find the drive to keep going out there, man, even when the team’s not winning and…
Because I have expectations of myself. I do know if I don’t do or if I don’t bring a certain level, nine times out of ten our team is not going to move. Even though I have teammates around, the team obviously can do things without me, but it helps to have me there. A lot of things that I do bring to the table, I feel like it’s a plus. I don’t know, man…I’m motivated because of self, man. I feel like I’m the start and finish of a lot of things, and I don’t mind that pressure on me because I am an example and I’m willing to work toward something. But one thing that I can’t stand is if I’m working hard and the organization upstairs isn’t working hard, it’s not fair. It’s not fair to me. That’s not fair to a person who’s actually trying to get a championship. I feel like when it works is when both sides are just as active and as hungry.

Making stuff happen.
Absolutely.

How old are you now, 30?
Thirty, yeah, just turned 30 this year.

When you were 18, how do you think…Let’s say if you were 18 again looking forward at what you’ve accomplished in your career, have you exceeded your expectations? Have you met your expectations?
I’ve met my expectations. Only thing I haven’t met in this league is achieve a championship. That would sort of sew it all together. The reason I joined the Olympic team was to win a gold medal, so I had to donate the ‘99 summer to the Olympics, for the trials. 2000, same thing. I won that. I wanted to make the All-Star Game my second year. I went out, I did that. I was able to build upon something, I did that. I’ve always said I wanted to be a part of the All-Star Game, so I’ve been able to maintain that, knock on wood. Individually, MVP, both All-Star and regular season. Without Shaq, them looking for me in Atlanta, I wouldn’t have been able to win the All-Star MVP. Without Sam [Cassell] and Spree, Ervin Johnson, Trenton Hassell, Freddy [Hoiberg], I don’t think I would’ve been in a position to win the MVP. Because every year, I think the year before that I had a similar type year, it went to Tim [Duncan]. I already knew winning was everything, but it really solidified that. Without those teammates, man, I couldn’t have done none of that. You know, achieving all those things…I have, I have no regrets, yo. I don’t regret too many things in life, I just wish that the Minnesota Timberwolves would work a little harder, or work as hard as I work in the summertime.

And if could change anything, I wish Stephon [Marbury] wouldn’t have left. That was Steph’s decision, that wasn’t me, but if I had any control over it…

Are you guys cool now?
We’ve always been cool, we were just growing, man, you know what I mean?

Because you’d hear little bits here and there, and…
Steph left, yo. I don’t speak on it a lot, but Steph made the decision for his career, and I’ve gotta honor that. That’s a man making a decision on that. That’s what it’s been. If there was one thing I wish I could have, I would want to see him push the ball, Steph and I going for it this long, seeing where we end up at. Because I know we’d have won at least a couple of rings, I know that, I know that.

So, two and half months left until the season starts, what’s next?
Finish working out, finish bringing something to the table, finish being in the lab. Training camp starts in October. Hopefully the Timberwolves will have done what they need to do to make us better.

Would you want to leave, if the T-Wolves don’t get better…
I got to…

…down the road somewhere?
…I got to. If you’re not working towards a championship, then why are we in this? I’m in it to win, man, I’m not in it to be coming back talking about next year. I’m 30. I’ve probably got 4 to 5 years, you know what I’m saying? My clock is ticking, man. I’m almost like a woman who’s trying to get pregnant. My years are limited, so my clock is definitely ticking.

Appreciate it.
That’s what’s up.
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8/10/2006  9:07 PM
Posted by EnySpree:

Great quote from garnett. Minnesota should shop him. Why the heck not? The longer they wait what would be the point. 30 turns to 35 real fast. Before you know it garnett will be getting schooled by, frye, lol.

I say make him suffer. If we don't win, then he dosen't win. If he wanted to win, he should have forced the issue of going somewher else a few years ago. I hope he never has that baby. The same thing with Webber too. He had a chance and he listened to his dad and he's still a loser. If you want to win and your a star looking for a championship, then you should come to New York or stop crying.
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8/11/2006  3:16 PM
Posted by franco12:

KG is going to try to pick his destination and if we are in last place when the decision is made, now way it happens.

Look what Indiana got for Artest? Rent a Peja!

Minny might be lucky to get Jalen Rose (Major Cap Relief) and Frye & Balkman!

LOL, that Artest trade didn't really happen. Bird doesn't make blunder trades only Isiah.
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8/11/2006  6:13 PM
I like those quotes about Marbury. I didn't realize he had that high an opinion of Steph. Staying in Minny would have been so good for Marbury. I think KG would have kept Steph in line much better.
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8/11/2006  7:18 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

I like those quotes about Marbury. I didn't realize he had that high an opinion of Steph. Staying in Minny would have been so good for Marbury. I think KG would have kept Steph in line much better.


Same. I remember thinking at that time how a great duo they could have been. Imho, garnett is wonderfully talented, but need a ballhog like marb next to him to make thigs happen. Garnett could have been a great sidekick (though mroe talented that number 1...), he's so much better when he doesn't have to be the man, but instead, the man that does everything else.
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8/11/2006  11:57 PM
Posted by Pharzeone:
Posted by franco12:

KG is going to try to pick his destination and if we are in last place when the decision is made, now way it happens.

Look what Indiana got for Artest? Rent a Peja!

Minny might be lucky to get Jalen Rose (Major Cap Relief) and Frye & Balkman!

LOL, that Artest trade didn't really happen. Bird doesn't make blunder trades only Isiah.

Actually, and I am not aying it was a great trade by any means, but on the flipside, the Pacers got rid of a headache(Artest) and his longterm contract, rented Peja(but managed to save more money) because he now has Granger for the 4 spot. Indy is at $57 mil cap wise while with Artest they would have been at almost $63 and have the headache. Worst case scenario-they traded Artest for an expiring deal(Peja made close to what Artest made). And where Indy is development wise that is not a horrible decision.
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8/12/2006  4:07 AM
Getting an expiring contract for the Defensive Player of the Year who also can give you 22 PPG is nothing to brag about no matter how much baggage the guy had. It's hindsight, but imagine how much they could have gotten for him if they had traded him at a smarter time.
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8/12/2006  7:33 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Getting an expiring contract for the Defensive Player of the Year who also can give you 22 PPG is nothing to brag about no matter how much baggage the guy had. It's hindsight, but imagine how much they could have gotten for him if they had traded him at a smarter time.

I agree. Poor trade. Getting Peja for Artest would've been a decent move had Peja stayed. Peja fled, so they traded Artest for cap space, which is just poor.

Does this kill the Pacers? Not necessarily. But it's a major blow.
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8/12/2006  8:42 AM
Yeah, it would have been adequate, probably the best they could have gotten for Artest at *this* point, if they'd been able to keep Peja.
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8/12/2006  9:30 AM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Getting an expiring contract for the Defensive Player of the Year who also can give you 22 PPG is nothing to brag about no matter how much baggage the guy had. It's hindsight, but imagine how much they could have gotten for him if they had traded him at a smarter time.

Absolutely agree. But Artest killed his value. I wouldn't have given up Frye for him(if that is indeed what they wanted). 29 other NBA teams in the NBA had leverage over the Pacers in that situation because Artest was just not going to play for them again. I feel on his game Artest is the best all around player in the game. Said it for a while now. He messed up by trading him too late. They could have gotten more for him when he was suspended 2 years ago. Under the circumstances, I think that was the best he could really do. He didn't take on any long term money, no players with issues, and he didn't tie himself to anyone long term either. He got himself some nice young swingmen which he probably would have had a hard time doing if Artest was here, and if he got them they probably would be sitting behind a long term contract player if he didn't make this deal.

I agree Artest as a skill player was worth more. But there were mitigating circumtances on this one. Looking back, I think Walsh did the bet he could do.

I also forgot to add that in the draft he got Shawne Williams, obtained Marquis Daniels and Orien Green. Walsh covered himself pretty good from that trade.

[Edited by - joec32033 on 08-12-2006 09:45 AM]
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