Nice post, Purple... I agree whole-heartedly, Its crazy how pessimistic some Knick Fans have become.

I like the moves, I'll be honest I didn't ride w/ the Balkman draft pick over Marcus Williams BUT, I was pretty familiar w/ him from the NIT.. but to your point these moves were not/are not bad. We should appreciate them ad look forward to better days in NY

i think the problem is, that, the majority came into last season as optimistic as ever... HOF coach, 3 new rookies, new center..... we looked really promising, and it turned into one of the worst seasons ever... Now heading into this season, fans dont want to make that same mistake twice, getting optimistic, and then getting embarrased with another crappy season.. .i think we should stay away from predictions, and just take it one game at a time.... predictions should start after the core is built, and we actually see what we have.....

Solace is an AWFUL Knick fan!!!!

DEMANO - I think all that optimism was blown up by LB coming in here with an agenda that was dispicable.

Knick fans are acting like their girlfriends/boyfriends just cheated on them and now they can't trust them and it is hurting.

The knicks on paper have the most talent that they have had in years. Last year everything that could go wrong did. There is no way to go but up. I think the knicks will definately improve and isiah has already made that change by trying to keep a positive attitude. The players seem responsive and excited. Isiah made a point to leak out what type of offense he will run just to give fans an idea of what he is trying to do. To me its the perfect situation. Its very exciting to me.

Why be a fan if you can't clget excited about your team? They have been saying the new York fans are the most knowledgable fans in the world. I think they are some of the most annoying. All anyone wants to see is a winner. If they don't win they are the scum of the earth and the lynch squad comes out with their torches lit.

I'm excited and I don't care what people think. I'm a fan and a true diehard. No one can tell me different.

We'll, I'll tell you Purp, I myself try to look at what we got in a positive way, unless something changes that and it doesn't happen that often. Marbury, Houston to name a few, but on the LB thing (again!) I think the whole thing of LB having a reputation of having a first bad year (and that sounds rediculous) combined with the Marbury factor, the fact that a lot of players last year were brand new, along with rookies and really no established foundation as a team, at least not yet, it all ganged up on the organization and spelled 'disaster'! Obviously.

I am overall still very optimistic about this team and know that it can't go on forever, so chin up Purp! I know what you mean about negative fans. I seen enough of them on another board, not to mention the nazzies who run it and the division there was brutal. On this board, on the other hand, I have encountered for the most part, a sense of agreement and fairness to each other despite of they're own views. Fair enough.

The only thing I have a problem with at this time though is, I don't understand why we keep signing these big, long contracts with people who haven't really proven anytihng. It wouldn't bother me so much if signed a mediocre guy to a three year deal, but these five year deals? Now that's a reasonable concern and one that can be talked about. But overall, things will get better. They simply have to.

The franchise is in "Walt Frazier" Quack Mierer. No consistancy in anyway shape or form other then down hill. Players and coaches are move in and out like it's friggen hotel Knickerbockers. The franchise has about as much direction as the "Blair Witch Project", so there's no reason to be mind boggled at the inconsistancey of the avareage fan too the die hards. It's ridiculous to even start a thread questioning the loyalty to the franchise, when the franchise hasn't been loyal to the fan,

Posted by EnySpree:

Loyalty? Isn't that all apart of being a fan?
The knicks can suck forever and I will stil be a fan. That will never change.

A lot of people just want to be on the side that is right. They don't want anyone to think they are in love with a loser.

I mean damn. This is sports. None of these athletes care about the fans. That is a given. Still in my eyes I love the game of basketball. The knicks are the only local team in nyc. I'm a closet nets fan too, though that closet has been closed ever since kidd came to town. Bernard king made me a knick fan. Drazen, Kenny and DC made me the closet net fan.

Any rate, these mofos don't care about anything but their money. There are the times when a good team comes together and for a little while it seems like they care. Just because a team wins or a player is always in a winning situation means they all of a sudden care more about the game or fans.

Be a fan or not. There is nothing wrong with saying you are not a fan but you like to follow the NBA.

Regardless, like a kid with a blankey, I'm a knick fan.

I think as long as your in Knicks territory (this site being one of them) and your either being optimistic or bitching at them, then you are indeed a Knicks fan. That includes band wagoners and closet Nets fans. I saw a littel dog once being walked, wearing a Knicks nitted sweater. That dog was a Knicks fan too and he doesn't even know what the hell basketball is. I think for every Knicks dog fan that is wearing a Knicks sweater, there is equally a Nets dog fan, over in New Jersey wearing a nitted Net sweater. If your here, your a Knicks fan.

[Edited by - 4949 on 08-06-2006 3:25 PM]

Fine' let it go out the window! Who cares. This season will change how people feel. Don't be beat down like a dog. Wear that Knicks dog sweater proudly.