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Panos
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7/31/2006  3:36 PM
Just taking a closer look at Woods' stats from last year.
Very solid numbers:
shot 50.8% (great for a SG/SF), 7 pts and grabbed 4 RPG in 20 mins.
What could he do with 35 mpg?

Just wonderin'
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7/31/2006  3:47 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Panos, it's simple really. This kid has potential star written all over him. He's a like a bigger and stronger version of Micheal Finley. He can flat out shoot it and I wouldn't be opposed to him getting some burn at the 2 either.

I would love to see this rotation at the 3:

Jeffries, Qyntel Balkman
Posted by Panos:

Just taking a closer look at Woods' stats from last year.
Very solid numbers:
shot 50.8% (great for a SG/SF), 7 pts and grabbed 4 RPG in 20 mins.
What could he do with 35 mpg?

Just wonderin'

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7/31/2006  3:47 PM
his play last year goes beyond stats. thats they why you have to watch the games despite the teams record because when you don't you overlook the few positives. Woods went after rebounds and really worked his but off defensively...struggles with smaller quicker players at times but he's only 24..never really got a chance to play other than when he was 19 and stupid in Portland. Runs the floor like no other, hits a lot of open jumpers although he's not consistent yet which you can expect out of a 24yr old who only got a chance under Larry Brown
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7/31/2006  3:51 PM
I really hope we don't lose him for nothing.
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Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Panos, it's simple really. This kid has potential star written all over him He's a like a bigger and stronger Micheal Finley. He can flat out shoot it and I would be opposed to him getting some burn at the 2 either.

I would love to see this rotation at the 3:

Jeffries, Qyntel Balkman
Posted by Panos:

Just taking a closer look at Woods' stats from last year.
Very solid numbers:
shot 50.8% (great for a SG/SF), 7 pts and grabbed 4 RPG in 20 mins.
What could he do with 35 mpg?

Just wonderin'

Qyntel is possibly bigger and stronger than Finley but what does that mean. During Finley's fourth year in the leauge he averaged 20.2 pts, 5.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists. Woods has a long way to go before he can get anywhere close to that level. That being said if he develops the work ethic of Finley over the course of a couple years he could be a very good player. Unfortunately I'm not sure if this is the atmosphere that will induce sustained hard work from players who weren't "born" hard workers. I want Q to stay. But with this roster the best thing for him is to go elsewhere.
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7/31/2006  3:57 PM
It means exactly what it says. He has the potential to be a bigger and stronger Michael Finley. Qyntels body type and movement is very similar to the early Finley of Phoenix/Barkley era. The kid has the potential imo of being the best shooter on this squad.

Everybody on this team has a long way to go because we only won 23 games last year. We don't know what the best thing is for him. What we do know is that two players on this team (Jalen and MoT) will be gone this year. If Udoka can get a spot no one can tell me this kid shouldn't get a shot.

Isiah, please sign him.
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Panos, it's simple really. This kid has potential star written all over him He's a like a bigger and stronger Micheal Finley. He can flat out shoot it and I would be opposed to him getting some burn at the 2 either.

I would love to see this rotation at the 3:

Jeffries, Qyntel Balkman
Posted by Panos:

Just taking a closer look at Woods' stats from last year.
Very solid numbers:
shot 50.8% (great for a SG/SF), 7 pts and grabbed 4 RPG in 20 mins.
What could he do with 35 mpg?

Just wonderin'

Qyntel is possibly bigger and stronger than Finley but what does that mean. During Finley's fourth year in the leauge he averaged 20.2 pts, 5.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists. Woods has a long way to go before he can get anywhere close to that level. That being said if he develops the work ethic of Finley over the course of a couple years he could be a very good player. Unfortunately I'm not sure if this is the atmosphere that will induce sustained hard work from players who weren't "born" hard workers. I want Q to stay. But with this roster the best thing for him is to go elsewhere.
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7/31/2006  4:13 PM
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

It means exactly what it says. He has the potential to be a bigger and stronger Michael Finley. Qyntels body type and movement is very similar to the early Finley of Phoenix/Barkley era. The kid has the potential imo of being the best shooter on this squad.

Everybody on this team has a long way to go because we only won 23 games last year. We don't know what the best thing is for him. What we do know is that two players on this team (Jalen and MoT) will be gone this year. If Udoka can get a spot no one can tell me this kid shouldn't get a shot.

Isiah, please sign him.
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by JUNKMEIN:

Panos, it's simple really. This kid has potential star written all over him He's a like a bigger and stronger Micheal Finley. He can flat out shoot it and I would be opposed to him getting some burn at the 2 either.

I would love to see this rotation at the 3:

Jeffries, Qyntel Balkman
Posted by Panos:

Just taking a closer look at Woods' stats from last year.
Very solid numbers:
shot 50.8% (great for a SG/SF), 7 pts and grabbed 4 RPG in 20 mins.
What could he do with 35 mpg?

Just wonderin'

Qyntel is possibly bigger and stronger than Finley but what does that mean. During Finley's fourth year in the leauge he averaged 20.2 pts, 5.3 rebounds, 4.4 assists. Woods has a long way to go before he can get anywhere close to that level. That being said if he develops the work ethic of Finley over the course of a couple years he could be a very good player. Unfortunately I'm not sure if this is the atmosphere that will induce sustained hard work from players who weren't "born" hard workers. I want Q to stay. But with this roster the best thing for him is to go elsewhere.

I'm with you the guy has immense potential. We all agree the guy has potential but I''m not ready to compare him to Finley yet. I want to see sustained work ethic and team play from this guy before we talk about comparing him to one of the league's hardest working players. In an ideal world we would keep him and he would reach his potential here. Unfortunately he may lose out to the MoT's and Stevie's and Jalen's of the world. Too bad it's not an ideal world
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7/31/2006  4:18 PM
I don't know why some people think he is a bad teammate. His teammates love him he's humble when talking to the media, was the most active Knick in giving back to the community. So he Made a mistake of abusing dogs which he problably didn't even see as a crime having grown up around that stuff his entire life. Everyone makes mistakes, he's 24 now. You grow through a lot from the time you are 19-24.
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7/31/2006  4:19 PM
Has anybody bothered to notice that not one team has made Woods an offer?

Apparently, no one wants him. At least not now. Isiah is doing the right thing and letting the market dictate his price.

If some team decides to offer him something, then we can decide whether to match it or not. If not, then we can sign him for the minimum - and he'll take it and he'll like it.
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7/31/2006  4:23 PM
do we have room for him after signing worthless Udoka who happens to be an Isiah guy whereas Woods happens to be a Brown guy and is most likely a goner.

Who knows why no one has offered him a contract yet. he's flown under the radar his entire career and no one other than Brown has given him a chance.
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7/31/2006  4:23 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:

I don't know why some people think he is a bad teammate. His teammates love him he's humble when talking to the media, was the most active Knick in giving back to the community. So he Made a mistake of abusing dogs which he problably didn't even see as a crime having grown up around that stuff his entire life. Everyone makes mistakes, he's 24 now. You grow through a lot from the time you are 19-24.

I didn't say he was a bad teammate. I said I wante sustained team play. That means not just one year. It's okay to make mistakes, and everyone has the opportunity to be forgiven for your mistakes. But in the real world and not the entitled world you have to earn respect and kudos after your mistakes.

I'm with efw hopefully we don't fall pray to the potential bug and be conservative with Woods. I want him here, but let's not bid against ourselves to keep him. It's going to be hard enough to find time for him on this roster without overpaying to keep him

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7/31/2006  4:24 PM
you know, I was very opposed to Qyntel when he came here, but this thread is pretty much dead on. Qyntel is more of an asset than Jackie. Letting him go for nothing is stupid.
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7/31/2006  4:27 PM
Posted by Bippity10:
Posted by gunsnewing:

I don't know why some people think he is a bad teammate. His teammates love him he's humble when talking to the media, was the most active Knick in giving back to the community. So he Made a mistake of abusing dogs which he problably didn't even see as a crime having grown up around that stuff his entire life. Everyone makes mistakes, he's 24 now. You grow through a lot from the time you are 19-24.

I didn't say he was a bad teammate.

oh I didn't mean you Bip. just the people who never saw him play last year because they stopped watching the games and all they can go by is old scouting reports of how his D was bad a teenager and somehow he's a cancer while completely missing out on the positives he showed.
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7/31/2006  4:28 PM
Posted by crzymdups:

you know, I was very opposed to Qyntel when he came here, but this thread is pretty much dead on. Qyntel is more of an asset than Jackie. Letting him go for nothing is stupid.


wow Crzy you weren't too high on him I remember so the fact that you look at him as an asset is nice because I know you watch all the games and saw his progression. He & Lee are the only 2 guys I can say are my kind of player. I can't say that about Fre yet. only if he becomes more than just a shooter and holds ground against nba starting PFs

[Edited by - gunsnewing on 07-31-2006 4:30 PM]
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7/31/2006  5:45 PM
Woods can be a good player and just needs PT. That is why I am not really high on the Jeffries trade. Getting Jeffries might help this season, but unless Isiah has some trades in line, it will stunt the growth of Lee, Balkman, and Woods (assuming we even keep woods, which appears unlikely since we don't have a roster spot).
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7/31/2006  6:47 PM
You have to see the games woods played in to understand what type of talent he is.

If you didn't see him play, youtube him! I posted a link to a vid from that site before. His highlights are very impressive. Still you had to see the amount of opportunities he could have had last year on offense. Lots of times the ball was going elsewhere with bad results. Woods at times was like the go to guy they never exploited.

Not consistant? Anyone that says that doesn't know what 50% from the field is. Woods was always on the money from 3 too. He has a great handle.

And whatever he did last year was in the flow of the game.

Why he isn't he signed? I dunno. He had a great year. He had a hand in a lot of wins down the stretch.

Why isn't he signed? I just don't understand it.
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7/31/2006  6:50 PM
Not consistant? Anyone that says that doesn't know what 50% from the field is. Woods was always on the money from 3 too. He has a great handle.

there were a few times he airballed pretty badly or just glazed the side of the rim with his shot lol but thats because the guy never gets a chance. But he does hit a ton of jumpers not bad for a 24 yr old
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7/31/2006  7:14 PM
Posted by gunsnewing:
Not consistant? Anyone that says that doesn't know what 50% from the field is. Woods was always on the money from 3 too. He has a great handle.

there were a few times he airballed pretty badly or just glazed the side of the rim with his shot lol but thats because the guy never gets a chance. But he does hit a ton of jumpers not bad for a 24 yr old

Everyone shoots airballs from time to time. Saying that doesn't take away from what he can do.

Wanna talk airballs? Q-rich is your man. The union for the basketball rims filed a restraining order against q-rich die to the abuse he was handing out last year. The nets on the other hand want to give him the humanitarian award from sparing them that fatal swish sound that has been the undoing of countless nets in the past.
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7/31/2006  7:16 PM
If Woods doesn't stick with the Knicks and in the NBA, he can always make his mark in the Ultimate Dog Fighting Championships.

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Posted by oohah:

If Woods doesn't stick with the Knicks and in the NBA, he can always make his mark in the Ultimate Dog Fighting Championships.

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