The previous post seems to center on the fit (Jeff on the Knick roster) & the sense of the deal ($$$, duration). I wonder if we can speculate on the likelihood of the Wizards matching here. To me, its very unlikely. Here's some guys on the roster that may impact Washington's decision making w/ comments:

Washington
NO. PLAYER POS. HT. WT. BORN COLLEGE
4 Antawn Jamison F 6-9 235 Jun. 12, 1976 North Carolina Reason # 1 why they won't resign Jeff.

3 Caron Butler SF 6-7 228 Mar. 13, 1980 Connecticut - Reason # 2 why they won't resign Jeff.

24 Jarvis Hayes SF 6-8 220 Aug. 9, 1981 Georgia - Health? If the Wiz are optimistic, its reason # 3 why they won't match offer for Jeff.

32 Andray Blatche F 6-11 248 Aug. 22, 1986 - Do they believe in this guy as a prospect?

25 Darius Songaila PF 6-8 240 Feb. 14, 1978 Wake Forest - Not exactly a big overlap vs. Jeff, but they just oevrpaid for this guy (or at least paid a lot). Are they prepared to lay out more (to the tune of 5mm per)?

0 Gilbert Arenas PG 6-4 210 Jan. 6, 1982 Arizona - Unquestion leader, best player. Little to do w/ Jeff but he was an expensive FA acquisition 2 years ago.

6 Antonio Daniels PG 6-4 205 Mar. 19, 1975 Bowling Green - Great defensive minded guard who didn't play very well last year. Got a mid level contract last year.

The only reason they match is if they want to spark up a sign-and-trade in my opinion. To tell you the truth, they could really use a shooting guard and i wouldn't be surprised if they try to make a deal that involves crawford, or even a bigger deal involving rose. If they don't match and we get jeffries for nothing, we should make another deal to clear the log jam. With jeffries we have this.

PG Marbury, Robinson, Collins
SG Francis, Crawford, Rose
SF Jeffries, Richardson, Balkman

Both Marbury and Francis will demand 36-38 minutes a game so i don't think crawford and robinson would be happy playing limited minutes. Someone has to go. Either crawford or robinson should be traded for a shotblocker. Also, either cut rose or trade him for a lesser player with an expiring contract and a first round pick. Then cut that player. Something along those lines. I like the Jeffries/Richardson combo at SF. I think we need to keep richardson because he's potentially our best spot up shooter. Either way i think a move has to be made to keep everyone happy.

haven't posted in awhile, just healed from the bashing I was taking

why do you have rose at SG?

I believe that Richardson is our starter and Jeffries is the back up and balkman will remain as the number 3 option (he's only a rookie).

Collins is solidly in the backup, backup role until a trade is consumated.

Crawford will not be playing limited minutes. He will be getting 35 a game and while marbury and francis will "demand" minutes, whether or not they earn them is another matter entirely.

This is not the year of demanding minutes, and to continue to harp on certain players needing minutes and the ball is kind of a slap in the face to isiah, the fans and the UK posters.

If after last year, players still believe that they are entitled to minutes irrespective of results (wins) then they need to be taken out back of the garden and put out of their respective miseries.

Atleast penny hardaway them.

Jeffries is like Curry for me...I never heard of him until someone here brought his name up. Most of the downers this summer still recovering from the LB firing hangover are all for this move and it even placates the "we screwed up the JB signing" crew.

I did, however, notice one poster in the other thread mentioning that this move makes no sense, it's redundant because of balkman, yadda yadda yadda. So I suppose some posters just have to find something to btich about regardless of the move...

Jalen Rose and Mo Taylor are Penny Candidates.

Penny Candidate = go somewhere and work on your game, as long as it's nowhere near the team where you can bitch AND you can't talk to the press still.

HIHISI (here is how I see it)...
PG Marbury, Robinson
SG Francis, Crawford
SF Richardson, Jeffries, Balkman (how do you put jeffries ahead of QRich? I mean, QRich is a starter, get that through your skulls)
PF Frye, Lee
C Curry, James

Situational Substitutions: MRose, Collins, Qwoods
Penny Ruled: MoT, JRose

I Think they will choose q remember last year they wanted q for kwame

Posted by rvhoss:

haven't posted in awhile, just healed from the bashing I was taking

why do you have rose at SG?

I believe that Richardson is our starter and Jeffries is the back up and balkman will remain as the number 3 option (he's only a rookie).

Collins is solidly in the backup, backup role until a trade is consumated.

Crawford will not be playing limited minutes. He will be getting 35 a game and while marbury and francis will "demand" minutes, whether or not they earn them is another matter entirely.

This is not the year of demanding minutes, and to continue to harp on certain players needing minutes and the ball is kind of a slap in the face to isiah, the fans and the UK posters.

If after last year, players still believe that they are entitled to minutes irrespective of results (wins) then they need to be taken out back of the garden and put out of their respective miseries.

Atleast penny hardaway them.

Jeffries is like Curry for me...I never heard of him until someone here brought his name up. Most of the downers this summer still recovering from the LB firing hangover are all for this move and it even placates the "we screwed up the JB signing" crew.

I did, however, notice one poster in the other thread mentioning that this move makes no sense, it's redundant because of balkman, yadda yadda yadda. So I suppose some posters just have to find something to btich about regardless of the move...

Jalen Rose and Mo Taylor are Penny Candidates.

Penny Candidate = go somewhere and work on your game, as long as it's nowhere near the team where you can bitch AND you can't talk to the press still.

HIHISI (here is how I see it)...
PG Marbury, Robinson
SG Francis, Crawford
SF Richardson, Jeffries, Balkman (how do you put jeffries ahead of QRich? I mean, QRich is a starter, get that through your skulls)
PF Frye, Lee
C Curry, James

Situational Substitutions: MRose, Collins, Qwoods
Penny Ruled: MoT, JRose

Rose was at the SG simply to show we're 3 deep at each position. Also, how do you see Crawford playing 35 minutes? There just isn't enough time to go around. If Jeffries and Richardson see 24 minutes each at the SF and Marbury and Francis play 35 minutes each at the PG and SG that leaves 24 minutes at the most for Crawford. And that's without Robinson seeing any minutes. When you look at it like this, it's clear that another move has to be made and either Crawford or Robinson are gone.

how much is deshawn stevenson worth? if the wiz are serious about him they may not match. but i think they will.

That's the one reason the move doesn't make sense. Isiah is basically admitting that Balkman is purely for the longrun b/c he's not ready NOW and really, he isn't ready now. I'm thinking many players have to be gone, b/c there's just too much of a logjam 1-3, and a little bit at the 4.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

From the Washington Post - "However, the Knicks may not want to get too comfortable with the idea of Jeffries in their lineup because the Wizards may match it. According to an NBA source, Jeffries turned down a "significant offer" from the Wizards earlier this summer, an offer that was worth more than the one he signed yesterday"

This is kinda strange. He signs a lesser contract with the Knicks knowing that the Wiz can just turn around and match.

I dont remember how it went down, but is there any similarity to this situation and the one with Stephen Jackson a few years back when he left the Spurs? Was he a FA or a restricted?

Posted by rrini:

I am a wiz season ticket holder and also a knick fan. Very conflicted here but I could see a good fit for the wiz with Q as their starting 2 in a sign and trade.

Q + Udoka

for Jefferies + Etan

Posted by bobs3304:

Posted by rrini:

I am a wiz season ticket holder and also a knick fan. Very conflicted here but I could see a good fit for the wiz with Q as their starting 2 in a sign and trade.

Q + Udoka

for Jefferies + Etan

Bobs, where you been man?

if we could dump Q it would be great. we'll be set at SF with Jeffries(plays multiple positions, resign Woods & Balkman getting some burn