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Fran Vazquez....The NBA needs to do something about this.
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joec32033
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7/26/2006  12:18 PM

Fran Vasquez Signs Huge Deal With FC Barcelona
26th July, 2006 - 11:32 am
Mundo Deportivo - A Spanish sports newspaper is reporting that 2005 Orlando Magic lottery pick has signed a long-term contract with a large buyout sum with FC Barcelona.

The deal is a four-year contract. He will earn 1.4 million euros ($1.75 million USD) per year and he will have an approximately 8.5 million euros ($10.75 million USD) buyout.
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/41670/20060726/fran_vasquez_signs_huge_deal_with_fc_barcelona/


Seriously, with the situations with us, Sabonis, this guy. The NBA needs to do something about guys who declare for the draft and then sign long term contracts like this.

A compensaroty pick, standard 3 month contracts with NBA teams at the minute of their selection that precludes these guys from signing any European contracts without consent from their NBA team.

Something has to be done. This is not the standard, but it is becoming an increasing problem.
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Nalod
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7/26/2006  12:29 PM
Orlando got screwed. BUt its no different if the kid blew his knee out in practice and never made it back.

Its a bad scenario but how many euros have abused the situation? Not many.

This guy played the rules and worked it for him.

The other side to this is how many times have NBA clubs screwed with guys careers unfairly? It happens.

Bottom line is Orlando still is a very viable club with a good future.

No way to enforce what you sugget unless the euros post some kind of bond that precludes any entry to a draft.

Likewise an American kid could have also done this. Might there be a day when a bidding war starts? NBA europe will be a reality one day to counter this.
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7/26/2006  12:30 PM
I wonder if the only reason he ever entered the draft was to use it as a bargaining chip with European teams, indicating that they'd have to beat the deal he could sign with Orlando.
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7/26/2006  1:00 PM
its up to the teams to do their due diligence. Why would you draft someone you werent 100% sure would play for you? Thank god Isiah doesnt like Euro-trash, else it probably would have been us
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7/26/2006  1:02 PM
wouldn't he be making more money with a rookie deal?

And, after Orlando's rights to him expire, doesn't he become draft eligible or is he a free agent?

I would think Orlando should have traded his rights. Now, I would think he has no value to any other NBA team...
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7/26/2006  1:38 PM
I had the same thought of trading his rights. Orlando should have been shopping him this summer. The NBA should do something but I don't know what they can really do. Is it fair to the other teams to give a compensatory pick? It seems like you just have to take the risk that your european player actually wants to play in the NBA.
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7/26/2006  1:45 PM
Maybe they were shopping him and teams figured out why or didn't want to take the risk of FV not wanting to play in the US. It looks awfully suspicious if you're shopping your unsigned, European lottery pick. Or maybe they had no idea he was going to sign this offer.
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7/26/2006  1:55 PM
It was probably the later since they had no idea he was not going to play for him when they drafted him. Someone mentioned his draft rights expiring. Is that true? I thought in the NBA the teams keep the player's draft rights until they actually come over.
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7/26/2006  2:49 PM
Posted by Bonn1997:

Maybe they were shopping him and teams figured out why or didn't want to take the risk of FV not wanting to play in the US. It looks awfully suspicious if you're shopping your unsigned, European lottery pick. Or maybe they had no idea he was going to sign this offer.


Didn't we trade our stud future PG in the Phoenix deal?
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7/26/2006  3:32 PM
F.C. Barcelona is my fav Spanish team, so I'm happy about that, but it is true that Fran Vazquez is being totally unfair to Orlando. In fact, to me he is disrespecting the Orlando Magic. In the first place, he was not good enough to be taken at #11, but he should be thankful for all the confidence Orlando had in him when they chose him. Last year he really disappointed everyone, he was far from being dominant on a consistent basis. A couple of great games and that's all. I was really high on him after the incredible game he had against Croatia last year at the 'Euro Basket', but if you ask me, knowing the way Ivanovic (F.C. Barcelona coach) runs his teams, I really doubt Vazquez will shine next year. This team has a lot of great players: Navarro, Ukic, Kasum, etc. The only good thing I can think of Vazquez playing for Barcelona is that Gasol came from the same team.....although he absolutely dominated when it mattered: Spanish Cup Final and the ACB finals. So, in the end, I REALLY doubt he will ever be playing for a NBA team. Certainly this would not have happened if Orlando had made a better choice in the draft, but I'm dissapointed with Vazquez attitude.
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7/26/2006  6:03 PM
hey, if he's happy in Europe, that's his call. Being drafted by an NBA team doesn't mean that you owe the NBA anything.
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7/26/2006  6:11 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Maybe they were shopping him and teams figured out why or didn't want to take the risk of FV not wanting to play in the US. It looks awfully suspicious if you're shopping your unsigned, European lottery pick. Or maybe they had no idea he was going to sign this offer.


Didn't we trade our stud future PG in the Phoenix deal?

Yeah I remember people complaining how could we give up both Vuljanic and Lampe for Marbury.
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7/26/2006  6:27 PM
Posted by franco12:
Posted by Bonn1997:

Maybe they were shopping him and teams figured out why or didn't want to take the risk of FV not wanting to play in the US. It looks awfully suspicious if you're shopping your unsigned, European lottery pick. Or maybe they had no idea he was going to sign this offer.


Didn't we trade our stud future PG in the Phoenix deal?
Well if you're talking about just a throw in in a deal that probably would have been completed without the European player, then sure Orlando could have done that. I'm not sure what good that would do them or what good including Milos did us. (It did no harm or good IMO.)

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7/26/2006  7:22 PM
Orlando should have done more research on the where the kids heart was. NBA or Euro league. I'm certainly not feeling sorry for the Magic.
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7/26/2006  9:53 PM
There should be an NBA rule that if you are drafted you have maybe 2 or 3 years to sign with the club that drafted you. If they don't sign they should get fined by the NBA and the league should give those teams that drafted them compensation, like an exemption or something.

Also if you are already playing for a team you should not even be eligible for the draft! That is pure bull****! Guys that are playing in minor pro leagues in America can't get drafted or at least they have never tried to draft them. Why pay so much attention to these euros? If the want to play in the NBA they should sign a contract like everyone else. Euros get all these props and a lot of them over the years have sucked. Why can't American guys get the shot they do?

Also teams like san Antonio should get fined for denying guys they drafted, contracts. Luis scola being the main one. Scola has said he is feening to play in the NBA. He can't sign anywhere cuz san Antonio has a strangle hold on his rights.
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7/26/2006  10:05 PM
How can the NBA fine someone who hasn't even signed with an NBA team?
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7/26/2006  10:28 PM
Posted by kam77:

How can the NBA fine someone who hasn't even signed with an NBA team?

Orlando drafted vasquez in he first round. That is guaranteed money. If a team is investing a lottery pick on someone they are investing the future of that franchise on this player. If that player pulls a vasquez and signs in euro then yes that player should get fined by the NBA.

Why is that even an argument? The NBA needs to stop messing around with these guys. If they are gonna come then they should come. If they are not sure do not put your name in the draft.

They are already playing professional ball, why are they even in the draft? In America if guys don't make it in the college they just can kiss their careers away. The NBA turns their head. Only recently did guys like Anthony Parker and Charlie bell get NBA contracts. They had to dominate euro league for years before they got a shot.

Something is wrong with this. America needs to scout their own country and let these euro guys build their own players.
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7/26/2006  11:23 PM
Posted by Caseloads:

hey, if he's happy in Europe, that's his call. Being drafted by an NBA team doesn't mean that you owe the NBA anything.


I disagree. Entering the NBA Draft is a conscious decision. If you want to stay in Europe than stay. I agree with that part. However by entering the draft you are stating your intentions to play in the NBA in the upcoming season. The draft is too important to some teams(or multi-million dollar businesses) for European players to use it as a bargaining tool. If this is the way some Euros are going to use the draft they should all be declared outright FA's.

Eny, you have said absolutely everything I was gonna say on this subject.
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7/27/2006  12:22 AM
I think it's wrng what he did, but then how do you enforce this sort of thing? You can't make somebody come and play and it's not lie Euro teams are gonna honor the NBA draft if it's against their interests.
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7/27/2006  12:41 AM
I still think that they should be able to use the draft however they want. NBA teams will use prospects however they want too.
Fran Vazquez....The NBA needs to do something about this.

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