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McK1
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7/18/2006  7:45 PM
the new voice NY needed wasn't on the sideline but on the court.

Mardy gives this offense and defense a new refreshing look.

he thinks the game

he allows Steph to move to the 2 on offense and then back on to the point on defense

he will set a consistent pace both Offensively and Defensively

he'll get the opp to mesh with the rest of "The Future" on the court from jump street
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7/18/2006  7:50 PM
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7/18/2006  10:22 PM
I agree, he is a big kid, plays position defense well, plays smart. that would be a good move IMO...
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7/18/2006  10:23 PM
If so, you better buy out Steve Francis.
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7/18/2006  10:28 PM
it simply isn't gonna happen!! Mardy looked lost in summer league, what makes you think he'd be ready to start??? I like him but he's a project right now.
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7/18/2006  10:31 PM
Sign Me up!
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7/18/2006  10:34 PM
Are you all nuts? He airballs freethrows. He needs to develop as a player and there is no need to do that on the court right now... chances are we don't have our own pick next year anyway. Mardy Collins has good size for a pg/sg and his commitment to defense is good, but come on...he is not starting lineup material. He doesn't even crack an 11 man rotation (which is too many players as it is).
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7/18/2006  10:35 PM
Posted by Travla:

it simply isn't gonna happen!! Mardy looked lost in summer league, what makes you think he'd be ready to start??? I like him but he's a project right now.

ditto.
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7/18/2006  10:36 PM
And may I ask why? Othre than, hey we "heard" he plays good D and is a thinker on the court. I used to play great D and "thought" on the court, too. Made up for my lack of height and after I broke my ankle, lack of any kind of athletic ability. However, I arent good for anything more than a low quality pickup game.
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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7/18/2006  10:40 PM
If he's really that good, it will become obvious. But he's got to earn those minutes.

So I vote "no". don't start him from day 1.
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nyk4ever
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7/18/2006  10:40 PM
Posted by simrud:

And may I ask why? Othre than, hey we "heard" he plays good D and is a thinker on the court. I used to play great D and "thought" on the court, too. Made up for my lack of height and after I broke my ankle, lack of any kind of athletic ability. However, I arent good for anything more than a low quality pickup game.

I haven't "heard" he plays good D, I've seen him play good D for years at Temple University under one of the most demanding coaches in college basketball. When you are running a offense you want your PG to be able to do exactly what Collins does. Think, pass, setup offense, play defense. You don't need them to do anything else.
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7/18/2006  10:41 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by simrud:

And may I ask why? Othre than, hey we "heard" he plays good D and is a thinker on the court. I used to play great D and "thought" on the court, too. Made up for my lack of height and after I broke my ankle, lack of any kind of athletic ability. However, I arent good for anything more than a low quality pickup game.

I haven't "heard" he plays good D, I've seen him play good D for years at Temple University under one of the most demanding coaches in college basketball. When you are running a offense you want your PG to be able to do exactly what Collins does. Think, pass, setup offense, play defense. You don't need them to do anything else.
sounds like charlie ward.....
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7/18/2006  10:42 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by simrud:

And may I ask why? Othre than, hey we "heard" he plays good D and is a thinker on the court. I used to play great D and "thought" on the court, too. Made up for my lack of height and after I broke my ankle, lack of any kind of athletic ability. However, I arent good for anything more than a low quality pickup game.

I haven't "heard" he plays good D, I've seen him play good D for years at Temple University under one of the most demanding coaches in college basketball. When you are running a offense you want your PG to be able to do exactly what Collins does. Think, pass, setup offense, play defense. You don't need them to do anything else.

Hit free throws? But that could be said against nearly all the knicks. Seriously though, don't rush the kid. Let him earn his minutes. The knicks will be fine.
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nyk4ever
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7/18/2006  10:43 PM
Posted by EwingsGlass:
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by simrud:

And may I ask why? Othre than, hey we "heard" he plays good D and is a thinker on the court. I used to play great D and "thought" on the court, too. Made up for my lack of height and after I broke my ankle, lack of any kind of athletic ability. However, I arent good for anything more than a low quality pickup game.

I haven't "heard" he plays good D, I've seen him play good D for years at Temple University under one of the most demanding coaches in college basketball. When you are running a offense you want your PG to be able to do exactly what Collins does. Think, pass, setup offense, play defense. You don't need them to do anything else.

Hit free throws? But that could be said against nearly all the knicks. Seriously though, don't rush the kid. Let him earn his minutes. The knicks will be fine.

I'm fine with earning minutes! I just want Collins to start because of my disdain for Marbury/Francis and their lack of being a real PG.
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7/18/2006  10:54 PM
Technically, this "new" offense doesn't require a real pg.
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7/18/2006  10:57 PM
C'mon man, at least Luke Ridniour plays at an NBA level, let alone a summer league level..this is just silly.
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7/18/2006  11:27 PM
Sign me up

Summer League, just one week after the draft, is nothing but glorified pick up games

Mardy with a training camp and some preseason instruction will be the leader the Knicks can employ to organize the court and direct the tempo.

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nyk4ever
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7/18/2006  11:50 PM
Posted by misterearl:

Sign me up

Summer League, just one week after the draft, is nothing but glorified pick up games

Mardy with a training camp and some preseason instruction will be the leader the Knicks can employ to organize the court and direct the tempo.

I'm widit

See the thing is, your saying Collins won't be able to do that but neither will any of our other "PGs".
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7/18/2006  11:51 PM
of all PGs taken in round 1 Mardy by far looked the worst.

he may start for the NBDL Rockin Rimmers.
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7/18/2006  11:55 PM
Posted by nyk4ever:
Posted by misterearl:

Sign me up

Summer League, just one week after the draft, is nothing but glorified pick up games

Mardy with a training camp and some preseason instruction will be the leader the Knicks can employ to organize the court and direct the tempo.

I'm widit

See the thing is, your saying Collins won't be able to do that but neither will any of our other "PGs".

Collins was a huge disappointment for me in SL action. I expected alot more from him. He look very timid playing with 2nd year players. I think he is capable of being a starting pg in the NBA for a very long time but his SL performance was bad. He made mistakes that were very uncommon for him. I don't expect much from him this season.
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